Author: Amir Ban
Date: 05:25:32 07/19/00
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On July 18, 2000 at 22:00:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 18, 2000 at 16:26:08, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On July 18, 2000 at 11:05:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>I wouldn't begin to claim that DB "outplayed" kasparov in 97. I do claim that >>>it "beat" him, of course. :) >>> >>>But in the above, the point is can you find any specific weakness in DB that >>>would lead to GMs discovering that and beating it like a drum? Can you find >>>any weakness in Deep Junior that would lead to GMs discovering that and beating >>>it like a drum? >>> >>>That is the main difference I see. We _all_ saw the king safety/blocked >>>position problem in Dortmund. We didn't see any such problem in DB'97. It >>>must have weaknesses. But obviously no glaring weaknesses. DB'96 had them. >>>Deep Junior (and every other program) of 2000 has them. DB'97 was something >>>'different' in that regard, even though many want to pound their chests and >>>say "mine is clearly and obviously better" or "it was just a fast/dumb machine." >>>Both are far from truth. >> >>I quote Garry Kasparov who told me that game 1 of the DB'97 match was "a typical >>computer game". Deeper Blue showed gross misunderstanding of king safety and was >>smashed. >> >>Amir > > >Why don't you quote him after game 2? The picture 'changed'. Or after game >three where he was suddenly sure it was getting outside help it was playing >so 'un-computer-like'. > >??? He said it in exactly this context. He didn't understand what changed the naive computer that played against him in the first game into what he saw in the second. Amir
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