Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:27:36 07/19/00
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On July 19, 2000 at 06:50:02, Graham Laight wrote: >On July 18, 2000 at 18:18:30, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>Most people are ignoring the fact that what Mr Amir has accomplished with his >>Deep Junior program three years after Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, is not an >>easy task. Three years has passed by, in which most GMs have had plenty of >>practices using Anti-Computer Knowledges, since Kasparov last played Deeper Blue >>II in 1997. If Deep Blue was still available and confronted the same GMs that >>were in Dortmund it would have not score as good as Deep Junior. Mainly for >>these reasons. >> >>1. More Anti computer knowledges is known now than back in 1997. > >I'm sorry, but I feel an irresistible urge to take issue with this point. > >I re-read much of Daniel King's book about the GK V DB '97 encounter last night, >all written straight after the event, and I have to say that all of the issues >we've been discussing (closed positions, king attacks etc) are put down in this >book as "known anti-computer strategies". > >-g > Such strategies have been around (and known) for 20+ years. The thing is, they weren't really needed 10 years ago, except when playing programs like Cray Blitz and Deep Thought. Today it is dangerous to play "real chess" against _any_ chess engine on decent hardware. If you look at the games played by David Levy vs Chess 4.x and Cray Blitz, you will see classic anti-computer play. These games were in the early 1980's, almost 20 years ago... >>2. None of the GM would have played an open game against, knowing its great >>tactical abilities and calculating power. >> >>3. Deep blue would have played against different type of opponents with >>different styles, which make it harder for Deep Blue team such as: Hsu and >>GM Nick de Firmian who prepared special opening lines against GM Kasparov. >> >> >>PS: At the same time Amir made it harder for any future programmer to challenge >>any of the top 10, in Tournament Time Control, because in the future all the GM >>will not DARE to play an Open game against Deep Junior or Deep Fritz SSS as in >>the last game vs Leko. And unless programmers built more ABS Anti- Block- System >>to prevent GMs From blocking the center and attacking on whatever side the king >>castle, like on Kramnik game, the same situation will arise time after time >>again. >> >>Pichard.
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