Author: blass uri
Date: 13:01:50 07/20/00
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On July 20, 2000 at 15:37:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 20, 2000 at 15:19:46, Chris Carson wrote: > >>Dead wrong! >> >>You do not list the results of DT against any programs/hardware, >>I agree with that. >> >>1988 to 1994 DT dominated programs on 386 and 486 hardware. With >>me so far, not P90. Perhaps 90% against 386/486, but not P90. >> >>In 1995 DT played a few games against P90, lost to Fritz and drew >>with Wchess. >> >>Your argument is that DT beat everything 90%, not true for P90 >>systems. >> >>Your argument is that DB is 100 times faster than DT thus the >>90% victory margin holds because machines today are not 100 >>times faster than the machines DT beat. Not true. >> >>Again, the 90% score was against 386 and 486 machines and 8x700 is >>400 to 900 times as fast. Thats a pretty big jump from the machines >>DT beat from 1988 to 1994. The 1995 hw that fritz ran on is a P90, >>DT lost and drew against those systems. That is not 90% and 8x700 >>is about 100 times as fast. >> >>Got it. No I didn't think you did. >> >>I'll bet you have to have the last word, even if it makes you >>look silly. :) >> >>I may post more on this, or I may not. Ignoring any futher >>posts is not an admission that Bob has won, just that I am >>tired of arguing with a fence post on this subject. :) >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson > > >I've said all I intend to say. If you don't get it, or don't want to get it, >fine. There is clearly more evidence to say they are unbeatable than there >is evidence to the contrary. The 40 game match was a 1996 match, so that was >_not_ on 486's... You can check with those that attended Murray's or Hsu's >talks and they can probably tell you the exact hardware. > >The evidence is there. But you do have to open your eyes, and not your mouth. I opened my eyes and did not see the games. I do not know the exact conditions of the games. It is impossible to check for errors in the games. I prefer to look at games not from the history before 1995 when programs were weaker than today and only in public games. The theory you suggest is that the deep blue team decided to do the best they can to hide everything positive about their machine. people can choose if to believe it. This is my last post in this subject. Uri
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