Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:50:06 07/20/00
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On July 20, 2000 at 15:47:53, Ed Schröder wrote: >On July 20, 2000 at 14:50:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On July 20, 2000 at 14:26:16, Chris Carson wrote: >> >>>On July 20, 2000 at 13:03:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>2 years ago a single DB chip played several matches with top commercial >>>>programs. This DB chip was running at 1/10th of its normal speed, and yet >>>>it won 36 out of 40 games. This has been reported several times here on CCC, >>>>by several that have heard Hsu and Campbell give talks about the DB hardware. >>>> >>>>If it could win 90% of the games running at 1/10th the normal speed for one >>>>chip, what does 480 chips at full speed get (hint: 4,800 times faster). Would >>>>you think it might have a pretty easy time with today's programs? quads or >>>>8-way boxes as you want? >>>> >>> >>>Games against P90 machines. What were the program versions? what were >>>the settings? Who was the operator? Which book was used? Where are >>>the games for inspection? Did the DB team get permission to perform >>>this tournament and permission to report results? Were you there? >> >>I was there. The program authors were there. That was a requirement for the >>ACM events. We all sat across the board from each other. Marty. Ed. Richard. >>Hsu. Myself. anybody else you would care to name... > >Nah.... you are talking on late 80th's Rebel running on a 5 Mhz 6502 >processor with 32 Kb Ram Rebel doing just 500 NPS. Your point again? > >Ed > I like the math game... so lets see.. you were doing 500NPS in 1988? And today you are doing maybe 500K? A factor of 1,000? They were doing 300K in 1988. They hit 1B in 1997. 1,000,000,000 divided by 300,000 is how many times faster? 3,333 X faster you say? Now do you get my point? They have widened the NPS gap by a factor of 3.5 since 1988. _that_ is my point. The gap has continually _widened_. _not_ _narrowed_... > >> >>> >>>This is all mythical at best. Still no proof and non of the programs >>>were Deep Junior were they? >> >>and your point would be? Deep Junior is far and away better than any other >>program playing today? We can discuss that probability if you want... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >>>>No, but they must fly in yours... In my neighborhood, DB still flies... >>>> >>> >>>Really, I thought DB was torn apart and in Deep Storage? :) >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Chris Carson >> >> >>It could play in hours if the price was right. The hardware still exists...
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