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Subject: Re: How About Djr vs Crafty???

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:30:46 07/21/00

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On July 21, 2000 at 10:38:33, Graham Laight wrote:

>On July 21, 2000 at 10:02:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 21, 2000 at 07:45:31, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>I've noticed in some of the threads that Bob has stated (or sneakily implied!)
>>>that Crafty does some things better than than Djr does.
>>>
>>>How about an ICC challenge between the two programs, guys?
>>>
>>>-g
>>
>>
>>Where did I state that.  I did say that I am sure his SMP search is not any
>>better, because there are some theoretical issues that can't be worked around,
>>dealing with search overhead and move ordering.
>>
>>If I said or implied more, it was not intended..
>
>My apologies!
>
>When I thought about it afterwards, what you had said was that you've got some
>good positional stuff (e.g. king attack, blocked positions) which would help you
>in games against _humans_.
>
>Therefore, the challenge should be that Crafty and DJr both play the same set of
>_humans_ - not each other.
>
>I'll try to get more into the habit of thinking before writing...
>
>-g


There is no real way for me to say that Crafty has more anti-human stuff than
Junior does, since I don't have junior nor its source code.  I have seen it do
some things that suggest it doesn't pay a lot of attention to blocking a
position (probably a decent idea against a Kasparov, but not a decent idea
against a sub-IM player as it encourages draws).  But he _could_ be doing more
than I am for all I know.  I only know what I am doing, and how well (or
not-so-well) it is working, based on games I watch.

I do know of one GM that recently told me "I now hate this thing."

:)



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