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Subject: Re: best chess programmers

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:48:29 07/21/00

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On July 21, 2000 at 15:00:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>This thread is going nowhere fast. I don't agree with anything you say, but it
>would be a waste of my time to explain why. But here are two quick comments that
>will hopefully make you feel incredibly stupid.
>-Tom
>
>
>On July 21, 2000 at 10:13:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>Sure I am.  Should I tell you when the first SMP PC came along?  Of course,
>
>Yes, please do tell me when the first SMP PC came along. Because I distinctly
>remember reading computer magazines when I was ~10 years old, and they
>advertised SMP 386 computers. And that was a long, long time before Crafty.
>
>>>Just face it, you didn't invent SMP PC chess programs. If you think I'd believe
>>>that crap, you might as well start telling me that you invented the Internet.
>>I never said I did.  I did write the first shared memory parallel search that
>
>Har. Actually, you did say it. Direct quote:
>"With plenty of innovations from rotated bitmaps to being
>the first SMP (PC) program running..."
>
>Or did you mean that other SMP PC programs didn't run? They all seg faulted?
>
>-Tom


Name the SMP PC program.  I've never heard of one.  To date, I know of the
following:  (in order of their creation I think):

Crafty
Ferret
Deep Junior and Fritz (I am not sure who was first here).

There are a couple of other later one like diep, knightcap and SOS.

But what PC SMP program was around before Crafty?  I assume you have a name
as I certainly don't know of one.  I can pinpoint the date my SMP version
was running as it coincides with the dual PII/300 machine I was loaned while
my quad-P6 was being built and shipped...

BTW, there is a _big_ difference between writing the first SMP PC program
and "inventing SMP PC chess".  If you don't understand the difference, read
a book...

There aren't many SMP pc chess programs at all.  There are more message-
passing programs around, dating back to the late 1970's...

As far as SMP 386's, I'm not aware of any that were useful, and even a hand full
of 486 2-cpu machines were made but they would not run real code (IE Linux won't
fly on them).

Please feel free to make me feel incredibly stupid.  But don't try to do it
simply by making incredibly stupid remarks.  Set the record straight and
identify a SMP chess program that ran on the PC.  If we go to SMP in general,
then hit me with a name that was before 1983's Cray Blitz on a 2-cpu XMP...

You are right, the conversation goes nowhere.  But it isn't my lack of
information that is causing that...



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