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Subject: Re: Dead Wrong!

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 07:36:47 07/22/00

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On July 22, 2000 at 10:17:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 22, 2000 at 00:39:09, blass uri wrote:
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>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:48:09, Randall Shane wrote:
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>>>Using the above statement to claim that Deep Blue had a simple evaluation
>>>function is a clear misunderstanding of the paragraph's internal and external
>>>context.  From that statement, all that one can reasonably derive is that Deep
>>>Blue has a simpler eval function than the human brain
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>>I think that commercial programs has more complicated evaluation function than
>>the human brain.
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>I hate to argue here, but this is _absolute_ nonsense.  Chess programs are to
>the human brain as an insect is to the human specie.  Insects can do some
>things better.  They can carry more, in ratio to their body weight.  They
>can jump higher.  But they are _not_ more knowledgeable about anything.
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>I'm surprised anybody would even begin to suggest this.  I'd be more than
>happy to read any evaluation function you want and point out the places where
>I have knowledge that it doesn't.  But we are going to have to have a lot of
>time to do this, because the gap is HUGE.
>

I disagree with you Dr Hyatt.  Programs and Computers have more knowledge
and are better at some things than humans are.  Even with out the DB vs
Kasparov and DJ at Dartmouth examples, automation has replaced much human
activity.  Many people might be required to do the task or knowledge that
a single program does many times with fewer mistakes.  No shame here,
people are better at some things and computers at others.  Yes, humans
do maintain and update the knowledge, but in many cases, the process
and knowledge is in a program or data base that must be analyzed or
learned by a human (that is something most of us are good at) before
a change can be made.  Many times, the only source of knowledge in a
factory is in the program or it's data.  Just my opinion and experience
having worked many years in an automated industry and creating automation.

Or do you have a Ph. D in psychology?  I hope other experiences with the
human existance are allowed and there is room for more than one view.  :)

Best Regards,
Chris Carson

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>>Humans cannot remmeber many numbers to calculate the evaluation of the position.
>>The advnatage of humans is tha ability to use selective search and the ability
>>to learn from search to change their evaluation and not more complicated
>>evaluation function.
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>And the ability to do _many_ things in parallel while making an intuitive
>decision.
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>>Uri





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