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Subject: Re: Samsung Plans Alpha Motherboard Screamers For PC Prices

Author: Keith Ian Price

Date: 00:36:13 11/16/97

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On November 15, 1997 at 23:14:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 15, 1997 at 22:31:15, Keith Ian Price wrote:
>

>>Still, the PII-450 will be at least 10X times my current P150s, which
>>makes it worth the extra cost over the cheap 150 non-MMX units I just
>>bought in September. 2 or 3X isn't worth thousands of dollars to me.
>>Just a difference in perception, I guess. Then again, I don't have to
>>try to win the WMCCC next year, so I can afford to wait. Nice discussing
>>things with you, Bob.
>>
>>kp
>
>it's an interesting question.  when you say 10x I assume you mean
>non-mmx
>150's vs a PII/450?  Which sounds pretty reasonable, if not a little
>optimistic.

Probably close enough. Can't tell till I get one, but 60Mhz -100 Mhz
bus, 256K at 60Mhz vs. 2MB at 450MHz cache, and MMX will certainly yield
more than the 3X of the processor speed.

>My only cost comment is that from my perspective, the PII/300 is less
>than
>1/2 the speed of the alpha/500, which are not 2x more expensive.  The
>difference
>between 2500 and 4000 is not that great.  the /500 machines will
>continue to
>drop, and they still have that 2x speed advantage.
>
>It is at least worth thinking about.  IE Bruce bought one for Ferret...
>And
>it screams...

I do agree that an Alpha makes a great deal of sense for you. Crafty
will run with sufficient increase in speed on the Alpha over the PII-300
to make it worthwhile for you with all that you do with Crafty. But
Crafty is the only chess program that I have that would run >2X faster,
and so I will wait. Chess programs are the only reason I would "need" a
faster machine, and so I should get the one that speeds up most of them
the best.

kp



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