Author: Peter Hegger
Date: 11:06:49 07/22/00
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On July 22, 2000 at 13:17:57, blass uri wrote: >On July 22, 2000 at 12:49:49, Peter Hegger wrote: > >>On July 22, 2000 at 00:39:09, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:48:09, Randall Shane wrote: >>><snipped> >>>>Using the above statement to claim that Deep Blue had a simple evaluation >>>>function is a clear misunderstanding of the paragraph's internal and external >>>>context. From that statement, all that one can reasonably derive is that Deep >>>>Blue has a simpler eval function than the human brain >>> >>>I think that commercial programs has more complicated evaluation function than >>>the human brain. >>> >>>Humans cannot remmeber many numbers to calculate the evaluation of the position. >>>The advnatage of humans is tha ability to use selective search and the ability >>>to learn from search to change their evaluation and not more complicated >>>evaluation function. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I for one believe that the human brains evaluation function is so many orders of >>magnitudes more complex than DB's that it is totally unfathomable to suggest >>otherwise. >>Take any program you like and put it on a PC that is so slow it only computes >>3 NPS such as a human brain does. Then play a games of chess against it and let >>me know who won. >>Of course DB gave an illusion of complexity because of it's 200,000,000 NPS But >>it is an illusion none the less when compared to good ol' grey matter. >>Regards, >>Peter > >1)Humans know better which lines to search and know better rules to learn from >search about evaluation so your test proves nothing. Yes, humans know much more in these areas, which I believe proves my point. >2)More complex does not mean better evaluation. > >3)From the human's point of view the evaluation of chess programs is more >complex because if humans try to calculate the evaluation function of crafty in >a game of chess they will lose on time and will not be able to search 3 nodes >per second or only one node per minute. > >I am a human so I look at the facts from the human's point of view >Uri
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