Author: Alvaro Polo
Date: 13:47:58 07/22/00
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On July 22, 2000 at 11:22:32, Ralf Elvsén wrote: >On July 22, 2000 at 10:25:15, blass uri wrote: > >>On July 22, 2000 at 10:17:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 22, 2000 at 00:39:09, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On July 21, 2000 at 16:48:09, Randall Shane wrote: >>>><snipped> >>>>>Using the above statement to claim that Deep Blue had a simple evaluation >>>>>function is a clear misunderstanding of the paragraph's internal and external >>>>>context. From that statement, all that one can reasonably derive is that Deep >>>>>Blue has a simpler eval function than the human brain >>>> >>>>I think that commercial programs has more complicated evaluation function than >>>>the human brain. >>> >>>I hate to argue here, but this is _absolute_ nonsense. Chess programs are to >>>the human brain as an insect is to the human specie. Insects can do some >>>things better. They can carry more, in ratio to their body weight. They >>>can jump higher. But they are _not_ more knowledgeable about anything. >>> >>>I'm surprised anybody would even begin to suggest this. I'd be more than >>>happy to read any evaluation function you want and point out the places where >>>I have knowledge that it doesn't. But we are going to have to have a lot of >>>time to do this, because the gap is HUGE. >> >>There are many things that humans know and computers do not know but there are >>many things that computers know and humans do not know. >> >>Humans can forget about one weakness in their evaluation and computer cannot do >>it. >> >>I did not say that computer programs have better evaluation function but more >>complicated. > >Could you please define "complicated". > >Ralf I will do it. The complexity of a system is proportional to the length of the description of its regularities. I don't believe that such description is shorter for any program that for Kasparov's evaluation. Alvaro > >> >>If I have to calculate the evaluation of a chess program instead of using my >>brain then I will have to use a lot of time. >> >>Humans can see 1-3 nodes per second because they do not do a lot of calculations >>in their evaluation function. >> >>Uri >> >> >>Uri
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