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Subject: Re: I hope to see a future match between Fritz7 and kasparov

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 05:50:17 07/23/00

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On July 23, 2000 at 02:29:37, blass uri wrote:

>On July 22, 2000 at 20:14:23, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>On July 22, 2000 at 16:53:50, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On July 21, 2000 at 12:59:28, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 21, 2000 at 10:03:18, blass uri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I guess based on http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?120722 that
>>>>>Fritz7 is going to be at least 100 ssdf elo better than Fritz6a(Amir did not say
>>>>>it but this is my impression based on his words).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope that chessbase can do a match(tournament time control) between Fritz7
>>>>>with 8 processors(or more if possible) and kasparov before they do it
>>>>>commercial.
>>>>>
>>>>>They should also give kasparov the right to a revenge match after the version
>>>>>becomes commercial if Fritz wins the match.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>I would also like to see a match against Kasparov, but I think would be more
>>>>interesting to see Fritz7 to participate in a tournament of high level, because
>>>>GMs would not have a long time to learn the weaknesses of the programs.
>>>>
>>>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>>>
>>>It should play against top gms (or even a match against one e.g. Kasparov)before
>>>they have a chance to familiarize themselves with the program.
>>>And again much later on when they have discovered the weaknesses.
>>> From that we would learn alot.
>>
>>Now the programs have the same basically weakenesses, blocked positions,
>>blocked positions with attack in the king's side (perhaps the worst), then I
>>think that is not fundamental that GMs knows the _program_, it is enough
>>to be familiarized with the _programs_.
>>Just my opinion, I would like to read programmers opinion.
>>
>>Paulo
>
>I do not know if Fritz7 will have the same weaknesses and
>it is not simple to get a king attack against programs (some players did not get
>it because Deep Junior did not play the moves they expected).
>
>Uri

I am not also 100% sure that Fritz7 will have the same weaknesses, but I believe
very probable that that happens, because I don't know any program that knows
how to play in blocked positions. I agree that it is not simple to explore the
weaknesses of the programs, but I think, based on Robert Yatt's experiences in
ICC and in your experience in the Israel League (the chess player with rating
Fide<2300), it would not be difficult for GMs to learn on that if we had
more tournaments against programs.

Paulo



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