Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:51:13 11/17/97
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On November 17, 1997 at 12:57:11, Reno de Caro wrote: >While I can't be certain what the real reasons have been for the >"founders" of CCC to expel Rolf Tueschen from their "playing arena," I >do know what are NOT reasons for doing so: > >1. INSULTING AND ATTACKING OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GROUP: >This clearly could not have been a reason since AT LEAST one of the >founders of CCC, Mr. Whittington, has been as guilty of that on RGCC as >anyone. Mr. Whittington left the group after neither he nor his >"defenders" were able to put a good face on his personal attacks on >other members of the group anylonger. While you might be partially correct, Chris does *not* attack at every chance, while not providing any useful information *any* of the time. Rolf does nothing but attack, keep his favorite words (nazi, shroeder, etc) in each and every post, no matter what the subject, and so forth. > >2. USING OBSCENE AND VULGAR LANGUAGE: >Again, founder Mr. Whittington, before leaving RGCC (to the sorrow of no >one), set new standards in that field never reached by Rolf Tueschen or >anyone else. red herring because no one has mentioned profanity. I'd much rather see "asshole" than "nazi-like jackboots"... > >3. SATURATING THE GROUP WITH OFF-TOPIC POSTS: >Guess what? Mr. Whittington shared his sagacious insights on everything >from history to politics with the newsgroup, and other founders have >been guilty here as well, though admittedly to a lesser degree. Of >course, Mr. Whittington did clarify that off-topic posts are permissible >for him and those he designated the "elite," but not for the rest of the >"bores" on the newsgroup. incorrect. Chris does discuss chess. Rolf *never* does. He does nothing but attack, condemn, criticize, try to bait people, and so forth... *nothing* else... > >4. SPREADING LIES: >Here we have to determine what exactly it was that the founders have >referred to as Rolf Tueschen's lies. The only possible examples I have >seen could be classified as "opinions" by Rolf Tueschen that the >founders obviously did not share, conclusions that they themselves did >not reach, and insinuations that they found offensive. All of this, of >course, the "founders" too have been guilty of at different times in the >minds of others who disagreed with them. I already pointed one out, so you are mistaken. Rolf posted that I sent him some sort of "mail" recently. I have *not* sent him main in the past year or so. outright lie. No room for arguing. > >My conclusion is that of all the hypocritical reasons offered for >removing Rolf Tueschen from CCC, Mr. Whittington's throwing stones is >hypocrisy par excellence. Interestingly enough, it was the so-called >"founders of CCC" who either remained mute when Mr. Whittington went on >his rampages at RGCC or went the extra mile by trying to defend him >(Bruce, Enrique, etc.). > >If you feel I am being unfair, please show me one post by Rolf Tueschen >on CCC that is more offensive than what Mr. Whittington has posted on >RGCC at different times when some of you defended him. >Greetings, Reno I can show you *every* Rolf post, almost *all* of which are worse than what Chris wrote. maybe not *every* post is worse, but *most* are. And "most* is a really *big* number compared to the relative few posts from Chris. And Chris does offer to discuss chess and computers every now and then to boot, while Rolf never does. in short, good riddance, good bye, forever. Those that don't like our decision can also go somewhere else. This isn't meant to be an open club that takes *anyone*. We reserve the right to exclude trash. So far only one person has been bagged. It was totally appropriate. Even more so after the recent weeks worth of tirades and name-calling on r.g.c.c... he can cry all he wants, *I* won't vote for his return, *ever*, *now*. If you ask, I was one of only two or three that thought kicking him out was premature. I have now changed my mind. He's an idiot. He has no morals. He has no place here.
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