Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 10:54:14 11/17/97
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On November 17, 1997 at 12:57:11, Reno de Caro wrote: >While I can't be certain what the real reasons have been for the >"founders" of CCC to expel Rolf Tueschen I don't see why not. We made them public. > from their "playing arena," It is not "our" playing arena, as it proves your presence here. > I >do know what are NOT reasons for doing so: > >1. INSULTING AND ATTACKING OTHER MEMBERS OF THE GROUP: >This clearly could not have been a reason since AT LEAST one of the >founders of CCC, Mr. Whittington, has been as guilty of that on RGCC as >anyone. Mr. Whittington left the group after neither he nor his >"defenders" were able to put a good face on his personal attacks on >other members of the group anylonger. > >2. USING OBSCENE AND VULGAR LANGUAGE: >Again, founder Mr. Whittington, before leaving RGCC (to the sorrow of no >one), set new standards in that field never reached by Rolf Tueschen or >anyone else. > >3. SATURATING THE GROUP WITH OFF-TOPIC POSTS: >Guess what? Mr. Whittington shared his sagacious insights on everything >from history to politics with the newsgroup, and other founders have >been guilty here as well, though admittedly to a lesser degree. Of >course, Mr. Whittington did clarify that off-topic posts are permissible >for him and those he designated the "elite," but not for the rest of the >"bores" on the newsgroup. > >4. SPREADING LIES: >Here we have to determine what exactly it was that the founders have >referred to as Rolf Tueschen's lies. The only possible examples I have >seen could be classified as "opinions" by Rolf Tueschen that the >founders obviously did not share, conclusions that they themselves did >not reach, and insinuations that they found offensive. All of this, of >course, the "founders" too have been guilty of at different times in the >minds of others who disagreed with them. > >My conclusion is that of all the hypocritical reasons offered for >removing Rolf Tueschen from CCC, Mr. Whittington's throwing stones is >hypocrisy par excellence. Interestingly enough, it was the so-called >"founders of CCC" who either remained mute when Mr. Whittington went on >his rampages at RGCC or went the extra mile by trying to defend him >(Bruce, Enrique, etc.). > >If you feel I am being unfair, please show me one post by Rolf Tueschen >on CCC that is more offensive than what Mr. Whittington has posted on >RGCC at different times when some of you defended him. >Greetings, Reno Look Reno, I am not going to dig in Dejanews trying to find Rolf's posts and to measure who is more this and that. If you feel like doing it, help yourself. As for putting Chris and Rolf in the same basket, I find your whole post sophistic and in rather bad faith. There is a difference basic and obvious to all of us between Rolf and Chris. While they both can go off track, Rolf systematically and Chris every now and then, Rolf doesn't do anything else, campaigning, damaging, insulting. Chris loses his temper in a way sometimes I don't care for and some others I sympathize with, but his presence in any forum doesn't have as purpose damaging anyone, something I only wish I could say about Rolf. As Ed put it, Chris has the terrible defect of saying out loud what we all think. Is not Chris the example of hypocrisy. And I have more than enough of this topic. I have better things to do with my life than arguing about Rolf. You accused us of something I consider unfair and I am answering. Lets move to more interesting matters. Enrique
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