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Subject: Re: Fine tuning the engine's strength

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 21:31:55 07/25/00

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On July 25, 2000 at 20:03:42, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On July 25, 2000 at 12:48:17, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On July 25, 2000 at 11:29:07, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>>
>>>I do not see a reason that the computer should play in a similiar way to humans
>>>in the weak levels.
>>
>>
>>Why not? Because you are a strong player? I bet you were disappointed with
>>computer chess programs 10-15 years ago. Why? Because they could not play
>>strong. Why should a program be disappointing to you when it couldn't play
>>strong and not disappointing to a much weaker player when it cannot play a "good
>>weaker game"?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>If you want to play against weak humans you do not need to buy a computer.
>>>You can play against them in tournaments.
>>
>>
>>Bull. The market for programs that play a human-like weaker game is there. Just
>>because you are a strong player and are not included within that market does not
>>mean that the market does not exist. People should have all options available to
>>them: Internet, home on computer, and tournament. At the moment, home on
>>computer is a poor choice.
>>
>>I can play G20 on Chessmaster 6000 on one of the middle level settings, come up
>>two pieces for a pawn and still lose the game. Why? Because all of a sudden in
>>the endgame, the program is suddenly playing 500 rating better than it was in
>>the opening. Talk about frustration! I want the entire game to play at my level.
>>I do not want the opening and early middlegame to play weaker than me and the
>>later middlegame and endgame to play much stronger.
>>
>>This frustrates me so much that I am writing my own program.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>If you do not want to get out of your home then you can use ICC or other sites.
>>
>>
>>Again bull. Some people do not want their phone lines tied up. Some people want
>>to play on a laptop or palmtop. Some people do not want to pay ISP costs.
>>Putting your limitations and expectations on others is unrealistic.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>KarinsDad :)
>
>Yeesh!  Uri is not allowed to have his own opinion?  Bull.
>
>Dave

Caught me just after a phone call with my lawyer today. I'm always a little
grumpy when that happens. Besides, I did not say that he was not entitled to his
opinion. I said his opinion (in this case) was bull.

KarinsDad :)



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