Author: Tom Kerrigan
Date: 21:41:03 07/25/00
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On July 25, 2000 at 22:33:02, Dann Corbit wrote: >On July 25, 2000 at 20:30:19, Bruce Moreland wrote: >[snip] >>I am not interested in speculating about the tiny bit of evidence that exists, >>so as far as I'm concerned the thing doesn't exist and isn't worth talking >>about, certainly as long as they snub our field while taking its honors. The >>project is not science > >Because the chip is patented, you can find out exactly what it does any time you >like if you have a master's degree in EE. You have to explain what is going on >when you file for the patent. > >>and it's not competition, > >It isn't any more. It was at one time. It did not exactly hide in the closet >during its heyday. > >>it was just a well-financed PR >>gimmick, > >Agreed. > >>and that's shit > >I think it's the best thing that ever happened to computer chess. Here it is, 3 >years after the last time anyone saw heads or tails of the darn thing and we're >still yammering on about it. Look at how many people are interested in I think we're only yammering on about it because of Bob Hyatt. The only people I see who are pro-DB are simply repeating what Hyatt has said in the past about how great DB is. In my opinion, there has not been enough information published by IBM or anybody else to prove DB's strength at chess. We may point to DT and assume that DB is better, but as Chris Carson has done such a great job of researching, PC programs have also done better that DT. As Hyatt will invariably point out, DB has "done the deed" and beat Kasparov in a match. That's great, but how many programs have been given an opportunity to do this deed? Assuming that every non-DB program would fail is completely biased, considering that they never had a chance. If IBM said that DB searched 500k NPS instead of 100-200M NPS, it would be given exactly zero attention on CCC. But instead, we have some huge publicity number to gawk at and some reverent words from Hyatt, and it becomes a huge issue for more than three years. -Tom
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