Author: Ralf Elvsén
Date: 22:33:29 07/25/00
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On July 26, 2000 at 00:41:03, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >On July 25, 2000 at 22:33:02, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 25, 2000 at 20:30:19, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>[snip] >>>I am not interested in speculating about the tiny bit of evidence that exists, >>>so as far as I'm concerned the thing doesn't exist and isn't worth talking >>>about, certainly as long as they snub our field while taking its honors. The >>>project is not science >> >>Because the chip is patented, you can find out exactly what it does any time you >>like if you have a master's degree in EE. You have to explain what is going on >>when you file for the patent. >> >>>and it's not competition, >> >>It isn't any more. It was at one time. It did not exactly hide in the closet >>during its heyday. >> >>>it was just a well-financed PR >>>gimmick, >> >>Agreed. >> >>>and that's shit >> >>I think it's the best thing that ever happened to computer chess. Here it is, 3 >>years after the last time anyone saw heads or tails of the darn thing and we're >>still yammering on about it. Look at how many people are interested in > >I think we're only yammering on about it because of Bob Hyatt. The only >people I >see who are pro-DB are simply repeating what Hyatt has said in the past about >how great DB is. In my opinion, there has not been enough information published >by IBM or anybody else to prove DB's strength at chess. We may point to DT and >assume that DB is better, but as Chris Carson has done such a great job of >researching, PC programs have also done better that DT. > >As Hyatt will invariably point out, DB has "done the deed" and beat Kasparov in >a match. That's great, but how many programs have been given an opportunity to >do this deed? Assuming that every non-DB program would fail is completely >biased, considering that they never had a chance. > >If IBM said that DB searched 500k NPS instead of 100-200M NPS, it would be given >exactly zero attention on CCC. But instead, we have some huge publicity number >to gawk at and some reverent words from Hyatt, and it becomes a huge issue for >more than three years. Agree, he is really causing alot of trouble with all these DB-threads he starts. He would be so much wiser if he shut up and let you-Ed-Amir- Uri-Chris in peace tell the world that you have established without a doubt that DB was crap. It would be so much better... Your logic is flawless: no Hyatt => noone argues against you => no yammering Ralf > >-Tom
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