Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Exorcism needed!

Author: Timothy J. Frohlick

Date: 13:22:26 07/26/00

Go up one level in this thread


Dear Gordon,

Your computers may have been infected with the Fritz 6 demon.  Maybe a good
exorcist could help you.  Wave a quartz crystal over the machine as you incant
the words " I love you--please behave and listen to my will. "  If it works then
you can say that you have magical powers and if it doesn't then you can say
"shucks".

The Russians think that psychic powers are real.  When everything else fails we
just "kick the machine" and sometime a loose connection is fixed. Wishing that
something will function rarely works.  Ask a friend if you could load the Fritz
6 program on his machine temporarily to see if the effect persists.  If he likes
it he will buy his own copy.

If nothing works then just enjoy Fritz 6's quirks and wait for a patch.


Tim Frohlick



On July 26, 2000 at 14:17:30, Gordon Rattray wrote:

>I've been attempting to benchmark two different machines. So, I ran Junior 6a on
>a given position and saved the analysis.  I repeated a check test *on the same
>machine* to see if the output would be any different, but I got the same
>analysis (as expected!).  So I concluded that I had obtained some valid results
>for that particular machine.
>
>However, when I tried the same using Fritz 6a, it was difficult to get the same
>results twice!  In fact, for one test position, during the first run it found
>the key move after about 2 minutes.  When I ran it again, it required 6 minutes!
>
>Ok, so something is changing between test runs, but what?  Here's some facts
>that may provide some clues...
>
>- the machine has a total of 64Mb RAM.  32Mb are being used for hash.  There is
>no disk access during the test runs (I definitely watched for this!)
>
>- endgame table bases get accessed for some of my test positions
>
>- when I first start Fritz, I allow it an initial "dummy analysis run", just to
>get its hash table space setup.  I discard this test run.
>
>- I'm using Windows 98
>
>- before each test run, I perform a "clear hash tables" on the engine
>
>- during each test run, no other applications are being run on the PC, just
>Fritz.  I'm also fairly certain that Windows doesn't start any background tasks
>such as it's scheduled system maintenance tasks.
>
>- when the test has run for long enough, I clip the analysis and only then run a
>word processor.  I quit the word processor before performing the next run.  I
>then run another "dummny analysis run" to try to allow Fritz to get it's memory
>space sorted out again (i.e. get any memory paging done), before starting the
>next test run.
>
>
>I don't expect results to be repeatable to the exact second every single time.
>Maybe some minor factors may throw things out slightly - fair enough.  But I
>can't understand why I'm seeing such significant differences??  2 minutes for
>one run, 6 minutes for the next!
>
>Has anyone else seen this?  Or do you know what is responsible for changing the
>behaviour so drastically?  I suspect my testing procedure doesn't support
>consistent runs, and despite trying to be careful, I'm still getting caught
>out?!  Why is Junior not being affected similarly?
>
>(Finally, I apologise for not appending any "clipped analysis" here as I don't
>have the results on this machine.  I also don't think that it will help identify
>the cause, but if this assuption is wrong, I'll forward the analysis a.s.a.p).
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
>Gordon



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.