Author: blass uri
Date: 21:43:22 07/26/00
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On July 26, 2000 at 21:46:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 26, 2000 at 18:04:09, Chris Carson wrote: > >>On July 26, 2000 at 17:56:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 26, 2000 at 14:35:04, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On July 26, 2000 at 14:22:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 04:30:42, Jason Williamson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>So, is Hsu going to release a Deep Thought commercial program with some sort of >>>>>>Hardware card, simular to the ChessMachine of old? >>>>>> >>>>>>I can see some sort of marketing scheme where you can buy differnt version with >>>>>>more chips on it, the 1x, 2x, 4x cards ect. Hmm, would it be considered a micro >>>>>>still then? I guess so, since other programs (ie the Chessmachine) that used >>>>>>hardware were. >>>>>> >>>>>>Jason >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I think that as of right now, DB is MIA and will continue to be so. Hsu had >>>>>aspirations of building one 15x faster. However Kasparov declined to agree >>>>>to play a third match assuming he could find sponsors and then build the >>>>>machine. So with the chicken-and-egg problem unsolved, I think he has moved >>>>>on to other things, period... >>>> >>>>Did Kasparov want this 15x thing to prove it self against other >>>>opponents before he would grant the match? >>>> >>>>Best Regards, >>>>Chris Carson >>> >>>Yes, he said "if you build it I will come, after it has played other humans to >>>prove it is worthy." Hsu said "I can't build it until you agree to play it, as >>>sponsors are only going to support another match (a rubber match, if you will) >>>against the best human in the world." >>> >>>A chicken-and-egg problem. I won't play until you build it. You can't >>>build it until I agree to play. >>> >>>Nothing happens, there... >> >>Thanks! >> >>Best Regards, >>Chris Carson > > >I should add that I personally feel that the "I won't play it until it has >proved itself" is a tad superficial. I believe that the _previous_ version >of this proposed machine proved itself quite forcefully. Although he might >want to forget that. :) IBM was behind the previous version and kasparov so it is not the same. Kasparov has the right to believe that hsu without IBM cannot build a good program. I understand that kasparov does not want to play against an unknown opponent when he knows nothing about it. I believe that he is going to prefer to play against an opponent that proved itself. I believe that kasparov will agree to play if someone build a machine that does at least 80% against the best commercial programs when he can see 40 tournament time control games of this machine against the commercial programs. Uri
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