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Subject: Re: Computer Correspondence Chess Challenge (Ham)

Author: Ralf Elvsén

Date: 13:44:21 07/27/00

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On July 27, 2000 at 16:05:12, Stephen Ham wrote:

>Dear Jouni and James,
>
>Thanks gentlemen for your kind words and support. I'm almost too embarrassed to
>post here anymore after my terrible oversight in Ham-Nimzo 7.32. I can accept a
>few human tactical slips from time to time. But to miss the simple ...g4 line as
>a saving defense for the computer is nearly unforgivable since I'm supposed to
>be the strategist! Oh well...there goes another win that I was counting on!
>
>If you are interested, please feel welcome to visit The Correspondence Chess
>Message Board where some discussion of this match is occuring. We would sure
>value the input of you computer experts, since most of us really know very
>little about chess software, although many participants there do have/use
>computers in their correspondece chess.
>
>I've learned much from Fritz 6a and Nimzo 7.32. Most of all, I've learned that
>if I'm to have a successful future in correspondence chess, I'll need to use a
>strong chess engine to blunder check my work. Just two blunder checks at the
>appropriate time would surely have enabled me to quickly win in Ham-Fritz 6a and
>to have won my "won" position in Ham-Nimzo.
>
>I knew when I played my Dragon Sicilian against Nimzo 7.32 that I'd be entering
>a world where pure calculating ability is often more important than positional
>understanding. And I knew that the wide open Dragon postions would be exactly
>what the computer wants. Still, given that I'm supposed to play as if my
>opponents were human means that I need to take these risks in order to really
>test the opposition.
>
>However I can't help but question whether these chess engines have any capacity
>to win a game on their own. What I mean is, I've tried hard to unbalance all 4
>games in order to really keep things exciting and test the computers. But had I
>chosen to play conservatively, even in the Dragon Sicilian, I think these chess
>engines would be incapable of outplaying most master humans to the extent that
>they would win any games. They excel at exploiting human tactical errors when
>the humans push too hard to win, but they can't otherwise outplay humans. I
>think chess software needs to have a greater positional understanding so that it
>can accumulate small "positional" advantages to defeat humans at their own game.
>Until this happens, we master-rated humans need not worry about actually losing
>to computer chess engines. Still, it's no fun giving them drws either.
>
>Well, thanks for allowing me ramble on, as if I really knew what I am writing
>about. You have all been very courteous and I thank you for that.
>
>Stephen Ham

If you, or any skilled player, played for a draw at these time controls,
(and knew you were playing a computer) nothing could stop you.

Ralf



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