Author: Wayne Lowrance
Date: 10:40:59 07/28/00
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On July 27, 2000 at 08:48:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 27, 2000 at 03:57:43, Alessandro Damiani wrote: > >>On July 26, 2000 at 21:46:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 26, 2000 at 18:04:09, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On July 26, 2000 at 17:56:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 14:35:04, Chris Carson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 14:22:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 26, 2000 at 04:30:42, Jason Williamson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>So, is Hsu going to release a Deep Thought commercial program with some sort of >>>>>>>>Hardware card, simular to the ChessMachine of old? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I can see some sort of marketing scheme where you can buy differnt version with >>>>>>>>more chips on it, the 1x, 2x, 4x cards ect. Hmm, would it be considered a micro >>>>>>>>still then? I guess so, since other programs (ie the Chessmachine) that used >>>>>>>>hardware were. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I think that as of right now, DB is MIA and will continue to be so. Hsu had >>>>>>>aspirations of building one 15x faster. However Kasparov declined to agree >>>>>>>to play a third match assuming he could find sponsors and then build the >>>>>>>machine. So with the chicken-and-egg problem unsolved, I think he has moved >>>>>>>on to other things, period... >>>>>> >>>>>>Did Kasparov want this 15x thing to prove it self against other >>>>>>opponents before he would grant the match? >>>>>> >>>>>>Best Regards, >>>>>>Chris Carson >>>>> >>>>>Yes, he said "if you build it I will come, after it has played other humans to >>>>>prove it is worthy." Hsu said "I can't build it until you agree to play it, as >>>>>sponsors are only going to support another match (a rubber match, if you will) >>>>>against the best human in the world." >>>>> >>>>>A chicken-and-egg problem. I won't play until you build it. You can't >>>>>build it until I agree to play. >>>>> >>>>>Nothing happens, there... >>>> >>>>Thanks! >>>> >>>>Best Regards, >>>>Chris Carson >>> >>> >>>I should add that I personally feel that the "I won't play it until it has >>>proved itself" is a tad superficial. I believe that the _previous_ version >>>of this proposed machine proved itself quite forcefully. Although he might >>>want to forget that. :) >> >>I don't think it has to do with proving to be worth. He wants to analyse its >>positional play. Without that he could be surprised of a move, a mating move? :) >> >>Alessandro > > >I don't think that is the reason. Otherwise he could have said "I will sign a >contract, but before the match, I want to have 24 (or whatever number) games >against other GMs to look at to get a feel for how the machine thinks." I don't agree Bob. I think the most plausable reason is he wants to review its play for study purposes. How could he want to see if it is a worthy opponent ? Hsu is involved in it. I think that is good enough ! Wayne
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