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Subject: Re: "Battle of the Crowns" Contest status:

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 22:02:19 07/28/00

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On July 28, 2000 at 18:14:13, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 28, 2000 at 15:58:53, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On July 28, 2000 at 15:33:47, Dann Corbit wrote:
>><snipped>
>>>    Program          Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>>
>>>  1 LarsenVB       : 2610  186 226    12    79.2 %   2378   25.0 %
>>>  2 Storm          : 2557  223 166    12    58.3 %   2498   33.3 %
>>>  3 Noonian        : 2546  232 144    12    54.2 %   2517   41.7 %
>>>  4 Ozwald         : 2542  166 223    12    41.7 %   2601   33.3 %
>>>  5 Monik          : 2363  214 247    12    62.5 %   2274    8.3 %
>>>  6 Zephyr         : 2317  215 215    12    50.0 %   2317   16.7 %
>>>  7 TSCP           : 2293  180 402    12    83.3 %   2013    0.0 %
>>>  8 SnailSCP       : 2185  214 194    12    62.5 %   2096   25.0 %
>>>  9 Raffaela       : 1893  297 170    12     8.3 %   2310   16.7 %
>>> 10 Golem01        : 1695    0   0    12     0.0 %   2295    0.0 %


>>(you should not
>>include programs that has 0% or 100%).
>
>What is your scientific reason for exclusion of real data?  It is just as valid
>to win or lose all of your games as it is to win only a fraction of them.

Yes, but it isn't valid to report a "most likely" rating for Golem based on
purely upper-bound information.

You are better off calculating the others on their own, and sticking Golem at
the bottom of the crosstable, leaving its rating unspecified.  As soon as it
manages a draw or a win, include it in the rating mix, but not until.

Dave



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