Author: blass uri
Date: 03:02:41 07/29/00
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On July 29, 2000 at 05:33:54, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On July 29, 2000 at 04:29:28, Ricardo Gibert wrote: > >>I don't like any sport or contest that uses judges. Ice skating, high diving, >>beauty contests, etc. all use judges and the judges disagree all the time, >>because they all use different criteria for making judgements. They make >>personal assessments based on what they personally think is more important and >>according to their tastes and sensibilities (biases) . I hate that, so I don't >>watch such events, except for the occasional beauty contest when I don't mind >>quite so much ;-) > >Finally a voice of reason. There's no arguments that support replacing empirical >data with pure subjectivity or that they're measureably better independent of >the number of games. Either it's a question of misunderstanding the ELO system I understand the ELO system. The elo system does not use all the information to get the best estimate for the elo. It is using only results and not the games. I am sure that it is possible to do a calculating rating program that will give better estimate for the rating by not only counting the results but also by analyzing the games and evaluation of programs. It is not simple to do this program and I am not going to do it but it is possible. Here is one example when you can learn from analyzing games things that you cannnot learn from watching results without games: Suppose you see that in one game program A outsearched program B and got advantage by the evaluation of both programs. The evaluation of both programs was wrong and program A lost because the position that both programs evaluated as clear advantage for A was really a losing position for A. If you analyze the game you can understand it and increase A's rating based on this game. Uri
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