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Subject: Re: It might also be...

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:08:02 07/29/00

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On July 29, 2000 at 15:26:44, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On July 29, 2000 at 11:05:33, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On July 29, 2000 at 11:02:43, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>
>>>On July 29, 2000 at 09:11:35, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 29, 2000 at 09:08:47, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 29, 2000 at 06:40:24, blass uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I read at http://mitglied.tripod.de/ChessBits/index.html that an experiment
>>>>>>version of a well known program is 120 elo above shredder4 but they did not say
>>>>>>which version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When I clicked on the rating list I found that Fritz6a and Deep Junior are
>>>>>>numebr 1 and there is no experimental version in the rating list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd guess it is Hiarcs 8.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>... or Shredder 5...
>>>
>>>I would bet my money on Deep Fritz, the SMP version of Fritz 6a which is
>>>supposed to be a killer.  Or even Deep Junior 6 which could easily be 120 ELO
>>
>>
>>Deep Junior 6 is listed in 2nd. How they are testing single or dual cpu is my
>>question. Same thing if it is F6SMP.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>higher than Shredder 4...  Still, my guess is Deep Fritz.
>>>
>>>***  Djordje
>
>I do understand your methodological concern, but pray tell me which other
>program (apart from a SMP version of Fritz or DJ) could be 120 pts above
>Shredder 4?


Hiarcs 8, Fritz 7, Shredder 5 or maybe an upgrade for Deep Junior 6.


>I believe that Chessbits have been doing this testing merely to
>experiment, and that's why they haven't released official data.  As the SMP
>version of a program is supposed to be about 1.5-1.7 (depending on the efficacy
>of the implementation), that would put the actual ELO margin at about 70.


That also assumes they are testing on a dual cpu, which if that is the case
then the single cpu programs are at a speed disadvantage.


>Thank _you_ for discussing the matter provokingly.  I still think that we would
>have made a couple of lousy sleuths :-)


All I said was it wasn't Deep Junior 6 as that was in 2nd. And I was interested
in knowing how they tested the dual cpu Deep Junior, not sure that is provoking.
But you are right about the sleuth part.

Thanks.





>***  Djordje



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