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Subject: Re: what are the commercial winboard engines??

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 12:38:57 07/30/00

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On July 30, 2000 at 14:52:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On July 30, 2000 at 13:25:54, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>
>>Hi Mogens,
>
>Hey Frank,
>
>>yes I think Gandalf is in my opinion one of the strongest 5 chess programs at
>>the moment.
>
>Yes, I hope so :o)).

Mogens, I am sure !
I replay all my Gandalf games and this chess is fantastic !

User with have interest can download the games on my CCE page. I hope Gandalf is
in the next time available.

 Normally I don't buy chess software, but I feel obligated
>to buy danish chess software, especially since the programmers appear to be
>nice, judging from the e-mail correspondance I've had with them.
>
>>I think that all professional programmers have interest to get more money for
>>his work and a CD with GUI + WinBoard engine is that who the most user have
>>interest.
>
>I agree.
>
>>The user is the king !
>>(give his money)
>>
>>But, please not a new engine concept or engine with copy protection !
>>The false way !
>>
>>It is interesting ...
>>
>>Yes we will use WinBoard engines, we use the work from 60-100 programmers but
>>the own program has a copy protection or run not under other GUIs, Chessmaster
>>8000 is the youngest example when I understand the messages correct :-))
>
>Yes, that appears to be the case.
>
>>It is curious, the professionls will use the work from the amateurs for an
>>better marketing and give not that what the user will !
>
>In the Chessmaster case it looks as if they trying to disguise the fact that
>very few changes/improvements have been made by including WinBoard support.
>Basically, it's a very pathetic and unethical strategy and I hope it backfires.
>Giving the diseased a free makeover. What a crock.
>
>I also find the Young Talents "offer" to be grossly overprized, but at least
>some of the money goes to those that deserve it.

I think not that the price for the Young Talents CD is grossly overprized. On
this CD are 7 very strong programs. Not all user have interest on WinBoard
engines. Here it is easy to use the Young Talents engines with this fantastic
and very populare GUI. Furthermore, not all have an Internet account. Alone the
GUI is good for 99,-- DM (in my eyes). So I think the price for this paket is
more than fair.

I mean when the price is (example) 79,-- DM that all other programmers have
problems to sell a CD with one program. 18,50 DM for one engine is not
expensive. SOS plays in my opinion better than Nimzo 99 for one example.

I hope that more engines are compatible to Chess-Base GUIs. A very good idea
is Faile. I played today 3 games against Faile and "HURA" a half point :-))

Pssst, don`t tell this to other people :-)

>>I mean all new GUIs are compatible to WinBoard, or is this false ?
>
>I think that is true.
>
>>Now I think over 100 versions from engines for Chess-Base GUis. When the concept
>>from an other firm is good (a lot of compatible programs) is a new engine
>>concept OK. But one engine and a copy protection for other GUIs is ...
>>(I will not say this).
>
>It's moronic, no more, no less.
>
>>On the other hand I have more people on my webpage which have interest on
>>Chessmaster, this is good !
>
>Nothing is so bad, that it isn't good for something as the saying more or less
>goes :o).
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens

Frank



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