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Subject: Re: The New Anti Computer Chess Strategy at ICC

Author: Derrick Wilson

Date: 16:07:00 07/30/00

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On July 30, 2000 at 18:33:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On July 30, 2000 at 16:31:54, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>Even in a lost position a chess program still tries to fight. Is this what the
>>human player is doing in these games?
>
>I believe there's a difference in defending an equal position with all possible
>means and trying to resolve a lost position by winning on time. BTW, chess
>programs don't fight. They either resign because they're told to or keep playing
>until checkmated. Fighting is a human term.
>
>>There are no double standards BTW, as a program losing on time doesn't get any
>>point. Exactly as if a human loses on time.
>
>That's not the impression I got from the original poster nor you. I wonder if
>the original poster would have complained if he had a program, where the resign
>option was malfunctioning and it kept winning on time. Somehow I'm inclined to
>suspect that he would not have complained.


  First of all I wasn't "complaining", rating points have very little meaning
for me. I was just sharing with the group, these games because, I had never seen
a human beat a computer in this way. And yes I think it was poor sportsmanship
of the human, when a computer wins on time, it is not a "conscious" decision so
it is rediculous to compare the human with the computer, which is simply a
Lifeless "thing" with no will. However the human is counsciously taking
advantage of the computers lack of "awareness",. It would not have been so bad
if the human was attempting to win, but he started the game with the intention
of abusing the computer. Why you cannot see the obvious is quite baffling to me.
Another problem is that the human is getting rating points that he doesn't
deserve, He distorts the rating process though abusing Icc's lack of protocol
for this type of situation, thus corrupting the rating process. Do you honestly
believe that the human deserves Rating points for winning in such a "Shady"
fashion. Would you feel Satisfied with your chess skill if you won in this way?





>
>>I said in another post that I accepted the erroneous rules of chess servers (in
>>a regular tournament the game would have been a draw because one player is not
>>doing any attempt to improve its position and the other player can claim it way
>>before losing on time), and I will address this problem.
>
>That sounds like a sensible solution.
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens



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