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Subject: Re: SSDF in rgcc

Author: Chris Whittington

Date: 05:22:41 11/22/97

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On November 21, 1997 at 21:08:49, Howard Exner wrote:

>On November 21, 1997 at 20:05:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>
>>I know of *one* program (not yours) that will search for over one
>>hour, in a 40/2hr time control, if the *first* move out of book is
>>below -1.5...  I won't mention names, but it is absolutely certain.

If it is so certain, please tell us. There seems to be no reason for not
naming names here, or ?

>
>This reminds me of server players who disconnect when losing, who are
>eventually tagged by the server admins as abusers.
>
>>If they don't use an N of 60 minutes or greater (actually 60 is too
>>low) then this programmer has found a way to eliminate losses due to
>>choosing a poor book line.  You could say this is a way to attack a
>>cooked book problem of course...
>
>Sure hope this isn't a commercial program. Imagine spending big
>bucks and having the thing virtually lock up when losing out of book!
>This would surely make KK's list under the category "Sore Loser".

It is perfectly possible to detect whether you are being played against
using the autoplayer. So it would be perfectly possible to carry out
certain actions under autoplayer conditions, but not under normal player
conditions.

And who is this program of Bobs ?

I know who it can't be, because I play autoplayer games the whole time
against a range of opponents, so its not:

Chess System Tal (or any predecessor)
Genius 3, Genius 5 (omission of G4 is not meant to mean anything, I've
never owned it)
Mchess 5,6 (ditto)
Rebel 8,9 (ditto)
Fritz 3 (ditto)
Hiarcs 3,5 (ditto)
Nimzo 3, 3.5 (ditto)
Gandalf (ditto)

It can't be various others, since they don't have autoplayer capability:
ChessMaster 5000 (ditto)
Genius Windows versions
Fritz 5 Windows

So who else is there ? Bob, I think you should support your allegation
or withdraw it.

BTW I play autoplayers on timeout of 30 minutes, so I won't pick up any
longer timeouts than these.

Chris Whittington






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