Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 11:51:51 11/22/97
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on November 21, 1997 at 19:51:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >just to liven things up, I believe I mentioned that I thought Shredder >was >"quite strong" and sparked a month-long debate a while back? :) Nice retry Bob ! :-) I have to agree with you. Before paris I had the chance to see shredder2 play against several opponents on my autoplayer. I knew that Shredder is nearly 100-150 elo-points stronger than shredder1. I was unable to tell you about because we don't wanted "to warn the opponents". So I was always the same opinion like you before the championship but not able to speak because of championship preparation affairs. On the other hand I knew about virtual2 chess strength for exactly the same reason. Maybe this was one reason I always stressed the: BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAMS point ... Please - not again this topic. We were both right. We both new that shredder was strong, and you defended Stefan's shredder and I defended Virtual. My defense of Virtual was that quite high because it was not so well known that Virtual2 is so strong. Here in germany some programs have to fight more to deserve the same HONOR other programs get without fighting. Virtual and Shredder are both in this categorie. In the last edition of a famous computerchess magazine a writer wrote in the editorial (that shows the point of view of the publishers) that Shredder is not a good program. YOu can maybe feel wth Stefan, who read this text in Paris, with the 2 publishers sitting in the same hall and making nice small talk to him as if nothing has happened. Sometimes life in unfair. I am pretty looking forward to the future because these guys will now have to do a little turnarround AFTER shredder has again showed that it is NOT that bad. Why does this happen again and again ? Why are some people making programs weaker, as if this would NOT often influence the selling of these programs and maybe also the live-existence of people ? Aren't they in charge ? Can they write whatever they want - no matter if it is true or wrong ? I don't understand this. I am living in a fair hobby world. But some people live in an unfair marketing/business world. I would like to see the unfair people stack in their lager, and only to live with the hobbyists. If this would somehow be possible.
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