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Subject: Re: Alternative to winboard

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 00:27:41 08/05/00

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On August 04, 2000 at 12:56:38, Adrien Regimbald wrote:

>Hi,
>
>>I don't know why there aren't more programs that are free and do Winboard's job,
>>that's always confused me.  If you put out a program that did nothing but acted
>>as an interface like Winboard, and didn't even have the ability to play games
>>online, there would still be allot of people who'd be glad to use it.  Because
>>as good as Winboard is, you can get tired of looking at it after a while when
>>you use Winboard engines often enough.
>
>
>I think the answer here is very simple: writing a high quality, stable, and
>fully featured graphical interface of any sort is a MAJOR pain in the ass.  I
>think that programmers in general don't like this task, and in particular most
>programmers interested in chess would be more inclined to have some fun and
>write an engine.
>
>Combine the fact that writing such an interface would be annoying with the fact
>that there would be no financial renumeration for the task since you want it to
>be free, I don't find it the least bit surprising that there aren't more choices
>available.  Most of the free programs you will find for the DL are done by
>people who enjoyed writing that program as a hobby, something to do in their
>spare time.   Expecting someone to do something they don't like during their
>spare time is a bit silly.
>
>What you're asking is sort of like this:
>Why don't more gardners grow this cool plant I would really like to see that
>takes long tedious hours of constant work to grow, isn't terribly interesting to
>watch grow, and to top it all off doesn't produce anything of value.
>
>Just look at chess interfaces to ICSes - there are many many many less of these
>than there are chess programs, and the programs that _do_ exist for free tend to
>lose interest from their authors quite quickly.  AFAIK, WinBoard is the _ONLY_
>really good free ICS interface that has been around for a long time that is
>still being supported by the author..  Why?  Because as I said, writing
>graphical interfaces is a pain in the ass! :P
>
>Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a new choice in this field as well .. I'm
>just saying there are reasons for there not being others, and it's not very
>likely that there will be others any time soon.
>
>
>Regards,
>Adrien.

I think you're right about everything you talk about.  And actually, Winboard is
a very nice interface, and if that's the one we're stuck using, then we're very
lucky really.

Pete



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