Author: stuart taylor
Date: 19:49:01 08/05/00
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On August 05, 2000 at 16:25:28, Derrick Wilson wrote: >On August 05, 2000 at 07:01:40, blass uri wrote: > >>On August 04, 2000 at 22:57:21, Derrick Wilson wrote: >> >>>On August 04, 2000 at 22:25:43, Imran Hendley wrote: >>> >>>>On August 04, 2000 at 22:01:43, Derrick Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 04, 2000 at 21:21:42, Laurence Chen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>><snip> >>>>>>> I don't believe this list for a second!! Consider this, on a pent 200 the list >>>>>>>states that hiarcs6 is only 2417, yet the same program on that hardware defeated >>>>>>>2495 dean hergott in a six game match!! >>>>>>Yes, Dean Hergott at the time did not have a copy of Hiarcs to play and practice >>>>>>with. Also computers chess at the time was not taken as seriously as it now. >>>>>>The other explanation is that Dean Hergott was not aware of any anti-computer >>>>>>strategy, or, he played he's usual style because he did not believe that the >>>>>>computer was a serious threat. Result he lost to Hiarcs 6 on a Pentium 200. If >>>>>>you look at the games, the games were not closed, locked up positions, no >>>>>>anti-computer strategy was used. >>>>>>Laurence >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yawn....excuses, excuses, excuses... if my grandma had wings she could fly. If i >>>>>could play better chess I could beat Garry kasparov. >>>> >>>>There's no law that says someone can't defeat an opponent rated 78 points higher >>>>in a 6 game match. Six games isn't a lot, and the margin isn't all that big. It >>>>happens. I don't think this one match is reason enough to say the SSDF should >>>>not have lowered their ratings. You gotta see the big picture. >>> >>> >>> Which is? The question is not whatever or not they should have lowered their >>>rating, obviously they should, but by how much? >> >> >>Every number may be wrong because the performance of programs against humans may >>be different than the performance against computers. >> >>I also read that there was a noise in the match against Hiarcs6 and one match is >>also not an evidence. >> >>I believe that if you do a match between humans with 78 points rating difference >>you will find often 4:2 results for the player with the lower rating. >> >>I am sure that you can find examples in the ssdf games when program A won the >>first 6 games 4:2 inspite of being more than 78 points lower based on the ssdf >>rating. >> >>Uri > > > > I wonder if hergott had won the match, if would would have heard anything >about there being noise. It makes no difference. The complaint would still be valid, even if not made. S.Taylor
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