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Subject: Re: CB sponsors entry of _four_ programs to WMCCC 2000!?

Author: Paul Petersson

Date: 20:32:10 08/08/00

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On August 08, 2000 at 21:49:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 08, 2000 at 20:40:36, Paul Petersson wrote:
>
>>On August 08, 2000 at 12:54:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 08, 2000 at 09:25:50, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 08, 2000 at 09:06:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>They are the hottest things around, at present.
>>>>
>>>>Run an AMD at 2GHz and it will become hotter ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes.  But I am not interested in "temperature".  With Crafty, the 667mhz
>>>21264 will toast the 2gig AMD or Pentium...
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>>Are you sure? A P3/1GHz will do about 600kN, so a 2GHz would do at least 1MN.
>>
>>Paul
>
>I am sure the alpha will shred the 1ghz processors.  I am not sure about the
>2ghz versions since no such animal exists.  However, nothing leads me to believe
>that 2ghz == 2*1ghz.  The problem is that the CPU goes faster, but memory hasn't
>improved at all in 10 years.  DRAM chips still take just as long to dump/rewrite
>today as they did 10 years ago.  And crafty needs a fair amount of memory
>bandwidth, or else a big cache, which the 21264 nicely provides...
>
>As far as speed goes. I have an 800mhz CuMine here... it does about 400K
>on the positions I use for testing...  as it does on the crafty 'bench'
>command. The 21264 Tim had on ICC a couple of months back was definitely
>more than twice as fast as that number...

400K sounds a little low to me but anyway, the 1GHz P3 is 25 percent faster than
the 800MHz so that would mean at least 500kN. Even if a theoretical P3 2GHz
wouldn't be twice as fast as a 1GHZ, it would still be pretty close to an 667MHz
Alpha. Certainly no "toasting".

It will be interesting to see how AMD's 64-bit "Sledgehammer" will perform
compared to the Alpha.

Paul




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