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Subject: Re: When do chessbase engines resign?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:26:09 08/10/00

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On August 10, 2000 at 15:53:32, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On August 10, 2000 at 10:06:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2000 at 09:57:15, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>On August 10, 2000 at 09:51:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>The same engine can sometimes resign in engine-engine games inspite of not
>>>>seeing a forced mate and sometimes continue and not resign inspite of seeing a
>>>>forced mate in engine-engine games.
>>>>
>>>>Can somebody tell me what are the rules that engines follow when they decide to
>>>>resign?
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>It is not the engine which resigns but the GUI.
>>>In the GUI, you can adjust "early", "late" or "never" resign, whatever that
>>>means.
>>>I think that I have observed when both engines agree in reporting a large value
>>>for the score for the last couple of moves, the the GUI makes its decision.
>>>
>>>I guess that only Mathias Feist knows the exact criteria.
>>>
>>>Uli
>>
>>I did not tell it nothing under hiarcs7.32 GUI and
>>I found that in part of the cases the engines contimue till mate and in part of
>>the cases resign before seeing evaluation of mate.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hi Uri,
>I also perform my matches with the Hiarcs 7.32 GUI. I have it set to "resign"
>late in the game. I don't have this problem that you mentioned! I been
>performing hundreds of test games between Hiarcs732 and Fritz6 old and it seems
>that either engine will resign when there is no hope in the position, or will
>ask for a draw when the conditions call for an obvious draw which then the draw
>offer will be accepted!
>
>Regards,Terry

I will check my setting but I did not change my setting.

I do not see a clear rule about resigning and it sometimes resigns in a hopeless
positionand sometimes does not resign in hopeless position.

I also think that part of the hopeless position are not hopeless in blitz
because of the clock.
In one game Hiarcs resigned in KRPP vs KRNB when it is not clear if Fritz can
win it on time trouble.
Fritz6light also enjoyed from few draws that Hiarcs agree when hiarcs had good
chances to win on time by playing.

The result after 400 blitz games is 169:155(76 draws) for Fritz6 light
Fritz6light lost 9 games out of 400 on time.

Both sides won e4 f6 with black and hiarcs won e4 f5 with black and it proves
that the opening is not very important.

I played all the possible opening of 2 plies when white begins with one of the
pawns a-e.

Uri



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