Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:16:24 08/11/00
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On August 12, 2000 at 01:57:51, Michael Cummings wrote: >On August 11, 2000 at 23:10:31, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 11, 2000 at 18:09:24, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>On August 11, 2000 at 07:44:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On August 10, 2000 at 21:51:15, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>It is a pity that with so many Chessmaster followers, the King Version 3.0 or >>>>>CM8000 beta will not be participatingin the WMCCC. >>>>> >>>>>Pichard. >>>> >>>>Apart from the fact that i don't give it a single % chance to finish #1 >>>>there, if you pay $500 entry fee, i'm sure Johan will participate. >>>>I guess that johan doesn't join because chessmaster doesn't pay >>>>his entry fee, otherwise he probably would have a shot at joining. >>>> >>>>$500 entry fee is quite a lot. I'm secretary of a big chessclub. >>>>We organize a lot of tournaments. With $500 entry fee i could live >>>>quietly the rest of my life. >>> >>> >>>Money is not the reason. 500 bucks maybe are a lot for you, but not for a >>>company. The reason is they are going to deliver CM8000 in a couple of months or >>>so they cannot take the risk to get even a second place. How much people could >>>be disappointed because of that and instead of purchasing CM would purchase the >>>winner? OK, not too many people as much CM aims to mass market, that does not >>>even knows about the tour, but even so why they should expend even just 500 to >>>lose only 10 customers from the professional niche? For what? >>>Fernando >> >>I think that at least the same number of people are going to buy chessmaster if >>it get the second place and are not going to buy chessmaster if it does not >>play. >> >>Second place is a good result and people can buy more than one program. >>If it does not play people may think that it is weak and not buy it. >> >>Uri > >But would the King engine he be using be the same as that in CM8K, Probably not. >Its not as though the CM8K program would be used either, or the interface I >mean. So the engine would most likely be tweaked and changed and nothing like >what we would see. > >But on the other hand the mass market would not know the finer details. People >who know nothing about chess or computerchess are still jumping up and down >because they now think that chess programs are better than humans, since the DB >defeat of kasparov. > >You do not know how many people I have heard who know very little about chess, >think they can walk into a store and but a chess program capable of beating the >best player in the world with 100% accuracy. The question is what the buyers of chess programs think and not what people who are not interested at chess think. I think that most of the buyers of chessmaster will not be influenced by results of chessmaster6000 in WMCCC Some buyers may be influenced. Fernando claimed that this minority will not buy chessmaster if it is in the second place. I think that this minority may also buy chessmaster if it is in the second place and not buy it if it does not play. Uri
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