Author: Joshua Lee
Date: 00:31:20 08/13/00
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On August 12, 2000 at 19:04:11, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote:
>On August 12, 2000 at 17:13:44, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>[Event "Level=40/2"]
>>[Site "Pensacola"]
>>[Date "2000.08.11"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>>[Black "Lee, Joshua"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "B13"]
>>[WhiteElo "2099"]
>>[BlackElo "1365"]
>>[PlyCount "130"]
>>[EventDate "2000.07.29"]
>>
>>{131072kB. 880Mhz Athlon
>>} 1. e4 {0} 1... c6 {2} 2. d4 {0} 2... d5 {1} 3. exd5
>>{0} 3... cxd5 {1} 4. Nf3 {0} 4... Nf6 {2} 5. Nc3 {0} 5... Bg4 {2} 6. Bb5+ {0}
>>6... Nc6 {3} 7. h3 {0} 7... Bxf3 {1} 8. Qxf3 {0} 8... Rc8 {5} 9. Bg5 {0} 9...
>>e6 {5} 10. Qg3 {0} 10... Be7 {5} 11. O-O {0} 11... O-O {2} 12. Rfd1 {1} 12...
>>Nh5 {9} (12... Qb6 13. Bh6 Ne8 14. Bf4 Nxd4 15. Rxd4 Qxd4 16. Bxe8 Qb6 17. Bd7
>>Qxb2 18. Be5 Qxa1+ 19. Kh2) 13. Bxe7 {0} 13... Qxe7 {3} 14. Qe3 {0} (14. Qf3) (
>>14. Qg4) 14... Nf6 {5} 15. a3 {0} 15... a6 {2} 16. Be2 {0} (16. Bf1) (16. Bd3)
>>16... Na5 {5} 17. Re1 {0} (17. Qg3 {0.00/11 862}) (17. Rab1) (17. Bd3) 17...
>>Nc4 {1} 18. Bxc4 {0} 18... Rxc4 {2} 19. Rad1 {0} 19... Rfc8 {4} 20. Qg3 {0} (
>>20. f3) 20... Qc7 {4} (20... Qd8 {-0.73/12 125} 21. Rd3 Ne4 22. Nxe4 dxe4 23.
>>Rxe4 Rxc2 24. b4 g6 {-0.29/10 590}) 21. Qxc7 {0} 21... R8xc7 {4} 22. f4 {0}
>>22... Kf8 {7} 23. Kf2 {0} (23. Kf2 {-0.05/3 0}) 23... Rxc3 {7} (23... Rxc3 {
>>-0.45/12 176}) 24. bxc3 {0} 24... Rxc3 {1} 25. a4 {0} 25... Rxc2+ {3} 26. Kf3 {
>>0} 26... Ne4 {3} 27. g4 {0} 27... Rc4 {5} 28. a5 {0} 28... Rb4 {10} 29. Rd3 {0}
>>29... b6 {2} (29... Nd6 {-0.72/11 20}) 30. axb6 {0} 30... Rxb6 {1} 31. Ra1 {0}
>>31... Nd6 {12} 32. Rda3 {0} 32... a5 {20} 33. Rxa5 {0} 33... Nc4 {2} 34. Ra8+ {
>>0} 34... Ke7 {1} 35. g5 {0} 35... Rb3+ {4} 36. Ke2 {0} 36... Rb7 {11} 37. R1a7
>>{0} 37... Rd7 {3} 38. Rxd7+ {0} 38... Kxd7 {1} 39. Rg8 {0} 39... g6 {9} 40. Rh8
>>{0} 40... Ke7 {2} 41. Rxh7 {0} 41... Nd6 {6} 42. Rh8 {0} 42... Ne8 {1} 43. Rh7
>>{0} 43... Kf8 {5} 44. Kd3 {0} 44... Kg8 {3} 45. Rh4 {0} 45... Nd6 {4} 46. Rh6 {
>>0} (46. Rh6 {3.11/1 0}) 46... Nf5 {6} 47. h4 {0} 47... Nxh6 {3} 48. gxh6 {0}
>>48... Kh7 {1} 49. Ke3 {0} 49... Kxh6 {1} 50. Kf3 {0} 50... f6 {2} 51. Kg4 {0}
>>51... f5+ {5} 52. Kg3 {0} 52... Kg7 {6} 53. Kf3 {0} 53... Kf6 {3} 54. Ke3 {0}
>>54... Ke7 {4} 55. Kd2 {0} 55... Kd7 {5} 56. Kd3 {0} 56... Kc6 {5} 57. Kc3 {0}
>>57... Kd6 {11} 58. Kd2 {0} 58... Kc6 {1} 59. Kc2 {0} 59... Kd6 {1} 60. Kd3 {0}
>>60... Kc6 {1} 61. Kc2 {0} 61... Kb5 {2} 62. Kd3 {0} 62... Kb4 {2} 63. Ke3 {0}
>>63... Kc3 {3} 64. Ke2 {0} 64... Kxd4 {1} 65. Kd2 {0} 65... Ke4 {2} 0-1
>>
>>Can anyone find a win for black after 17Qg3 instead of Re1?
>
>You surely played well in this game..I like the way you played the opening..
>
>After 17. Qg3, I think 17...Nc4 looks good, with a good position for the black
>knight, but maybe it won´t last there too long..
>A variation could be 17. Qg3 Nc4 18. Bxc4 Rxc4 19. Qe3 Rc8.. and black is good
>here IMO
>
>This is only my frist impression though..
>
>Regards,
>Alvaro
See that's just it after 17 Qg3 you would think Nc4 makes sense but it holds
with best play. I had hiarcs sit on this for hours, even though black should be
winning the score will remain about even -0.20. I may have found a line with
pushing b5 but i have to time it (according to what i saw with hiarcs), I would
play Nc4 ...then b5 but it doesn't work. I will reply again with detailed
analysis. Earlier 12...Qb6 was much better, this would've made the game go
quicker.
your analysis would be great for Black.... But your forgetting one important
point Just because you place the Knight where it can be take doesn't mean it
has to be taken . if i took the b pawn i get nowhere. Also the problem of Ne2
and c3 by white. I get nowhere..... Just because my queenside pawns aren't in
their best location for a minority attack, which now is the only option due to
the exchange sac not working because the knight moves. I may find something i
may not... a third piece in the fray would help and lastly as far as my rating
and hiarcs rating goes it mixes strong moves with weak moves when you set it on
anything but 2450 sometimes you have the option 1540elo-2000 with 2450 being
unleashed and sometimes it is 1740 -2200 and 2650 unleashed .
The actual rating is unclear. My guessed rating by a couple of experts and my
chess coach who's rating is 2335 says i'm 1790-1805 somewhere around that.
Hiarcs played like an expert atleast in this game but strangely enough the other
game where i set it on 2200 it resigned in 23moves......
[Event "Level=120'/40+60'/20+30'. "]
[Site "Pensacola"]
[Date "2000.08.11"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Lee, Joshua"]
[Black "Hiarcs 7.32"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C65"]
[WhiteElo "1363"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[PlyCount "45"]
[EventDate "2000.06.18"]
{131072kB. 880Mhz Athlon
} 1. e4 {0} 1... e5 {1} 2. Nf3 {2} 2... Nc6 {1} 3.
Bb5 {2} 3... Nf6 {0} 4. O-O {2} 4... Be7 {0} 5. Re1 {2} 5... Bc5 {1} 6. h3 {3}
6... a6 {2} 7. Ba4 {2} 7... b5 {0} 8. Bb3 {1} 8... d6 {0} 9. c3 {2} 9... O-O {3
} 10. d4 {9} 10... Bb6 {0} 11. d5 {4} 11... Na5 {0} 12. Bc2 {1} 12... Bd7 {0}
13. Bg5 {4} 13... Qe7 {0} 14. Nbd2 {5} 14... h6 {0} 15. Bh4 {2} 15... g5 {0}
16. Nxg5 {4} 16... hxg5 {0} 17. Bxg5 {1} 17... Kg7 {0} 18. Qf3 {4} 18... Rh8 {0
} 19. Qg3 {12} 19... c5 $4 {The Losing move 0} (19... Rag8) 20. Re3 {7} 20...
Qd8 {0} 21. Rf3 {1} 21... Rg8 {1} 22. Bxf6+ {4} 22... Kf8 {0} 23. Qxg8+ {8} 1-0
I figure i should play it on the stronger levels where it wouldn't be making
weak moves like c5 without carefull consideration hehe but it's rating isn't
acurate as i can lose to what it calls it's self 1540elo so who knows
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