Author: Alvaro Rodriguez
Date: 11:58:35 08/15/00
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On August 15, 2000 at 14:37:57, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 15, 2000 at 13:40:04, Severi Salminen wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>>In my humble opinion, I think Chessmaster 6K or 7K is "stronger" than Crafty >>>17.13, so I'm not surprised. >> >>How on earth can you say that (well, of course I am not to say what you can say >>or can't, but... ;)? Crafty 17.13 isn't even released yet. And besides, this is >>not a matter of opinions. What do we mean when we say that a program is stronger >>than another? I think we all agree that the program which gets more points >>against another program is stronger, when number of games --> infinity, period. > > >I disagree. > >By this definition chessmaster is weaker than most of the programs because >chessmaster has no learning function and after enough games it may start to lose >the same game again and again. > >Suppose someone does a program that learn from experience but it needs >1000000000000000 games in order to start to play better than kasparov. > >By your definition this program is the strongest program in the world but the >practical test will show you that this program lose again and again because you >will practically never get enough games. Come one Uri :-) Who will play 1000000000 games between two programs? And manually because Chessmaster doesn´t support Auto232 ( yet ) :-) > > >>And if people knew more about statistics they wouldn't make so many posts like >>"Crafty won Rebel 1-0!! Something wrong with Rebel????" When two programs are >>very equal you need many (100+ or even 1000+) games to see the true relation. 1 >>game means allmost nothing. One game means _a little_, but can't draw any >>general conclusions on just one game...IMHO... :) >> >>Severi > > >If a program wins one game against another program then it will be more logical >to guess that the winner is better than the opposite so it is logical to have >the opinion that the winner is better. > >You can change your opinion when you get more information. > >Uri I agree Regards, Alvaro
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