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Subject: Re: In regards the the tiger versus crafty post bxa2 is sound!

Author: José Carlos

Date: 14:39:12 08/15/00

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On August 14, 2000 at 19:11:08, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On August 14, 2000 at 19:06:41, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 2000 at 18:51:26, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>
>>>On August 14, 2000 at 18:23:36, Michael Fuhrmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 18:02:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 17:15:03, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 13:55:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 00:25:54, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On August 13, 2000 at 23:04:06, robert blackwell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>People should check out a position more carefully before claiming a move is bad.
>>>>>>>>>bxa2 in the position given in the earlier post is the right move and it is the
>>>>>>>>>move nd5 which loses as it breaks the pin on the d file preventing bxb3! any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1..Bxa2 2.b3 Nd5 and black holds the position. If this is what you
>>>>>>>>mean I am in agreement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If by "holds" you mean doesn't lose material, then I agree.  If you mean
>>>>>>>"maintains near-equality_ then I don't agree...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regardless of whether it is good or bad, I don't want to see my program play
>>>>>>Bxa2, since it is often a losing blunder, and even when it isn't, it looks like
>>>>>>a gross computer move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Couldn't agree more.  Except for those cases where the bishop takes and then
>>>>>escapes.  It is ugly to see programs that some argue play at a strong GM level,
>>>>>play a move like Bxa2 that no beginner would play (may be ok in this position,
>>>>>although black seems to get into trouble).
>>>>>
>>>>>I used to cringe at such moves.
>>>>
>>>>This debate recalls (for me) a similar move Fischer played vs Spassky in the
>>>>world championship. (Think it was Bxa7, leading to a trapped bishop.) At the
>>>>time I remember the commentators being incredulous that Fischer played a moved
>>>>that no club player would play, etc. If I remember correctly, Fischer lost that
>>>>game badly.
>>>
>>>That is correct. I was just getting ready to make that very same comment just
>>>prior to looking at your thread. I remembered it well at thhe time and could not
>>>believe that he actually made it.
>>
>>I think Jon Speelman showed that Fischer's move actually lead to a draw with
>>best play.  I guess Bobby was trying to show us how clever he was, but he didn't
>>quite pull it off that time.  There were plenty of other times during the match
>>where he played moves that at first site looked stupid, but on deeper analysis
>>turned out fine.
>>
>
>Heh - you beat me to the punch by 60 seconds.
>
>As for strange looking moves from that match, Fischer's Nh5 in that Benoni
>(early in the match) comes to mind.
>
>--Peter

  I was so impressed with that move that I tried the idea in a similar position
in a tournament game. Sadly, my opponent knew Fisher's game too and didn't take
the knight :(

  José C.



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