Author: José Carlos
Date: 14:39:12 08/15/00
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On August 14, 2000 at 19:11:08, Peter Kappler wrote: >On August 14, 2000 at 19:06:41, Peter McKenzie wrote: > >>On August 14, 2000 at 18:51:26, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >> >>>On August 14, 2000 at 18:23:36, Michael Fuhrmann wrote: >>> >>>>On August 14, 2000 at 18:02:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 17:15:03, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 13:55:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 00:25:54, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On August 13, 2000 at 23:04:06, robert blackwell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>People should check out a position more carefully before claiming a move is bad. >>>>>>>>>bxa2 in the position given in the earlier post is the right move and it is the >>>>>>>>>move nd5 which loses as it breaks the pin on the d file preventing bxb3! any >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1..Bxa2 2.b3 Nd5 and black holds the position. If this is what you >>>>>>>>mean I am in agreement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If by "holds" you mean doesn't lose material, then I agree. If you mean >>>>>>>"maintains near-equality_ then I don't agree... >>>>>> >>>>>>Regardless of whether it is good or bad, I don't want to see my program play >>>>>>Bxa2, since it is often a losing blunder, and even when it isn't, it looks like >>>>>>a gross computer move. >>>>>> >>>>>>bruce >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Couldn't agree more. Except for those cases where the bishop takes and then >>>>>escapes. It is ugly to see programs that some argue play at a strong GM level, >>>>>play a move like Bxa2 that no beginner would play (may be ok in this position, >>>>>although black seems to get into trouble). >>>>> >>>>>I used to cringe at such moves. >>>> >>>>This debate recalls (for me) a similar move Fischer played vs Spassky in the >>>>world championship. (Think it was Bxa7, leading to a trapped bishop.) At the >>>>time I remember the commentators being incredulous that Fischer played a moved >>>>that no club player would play, etc. If I remember correctly, Fischer lost that >>>>game badly. >>> >>>That is correct. I was just getting ready to make that very same comment just >>>prior to looking at your thread. I remembered it well at thhe time and could not >>>believe that he actually made it. >> >>I think Jon Speelman showed that Fischer's move actually lead to a draw with >>best play. I guess Bobby was trying to show us how clever he was, but he didn't >>quite pull it off that time. There were plenty of other times during the match >>where he played moves that at first site looked stupid, but on deeper analysis >>turned out fine. >> > >Heh - you beat me to the punch by 60 seconds. > >As for strange looking moves from that match, Fischer's Nh5 in that Benoni >(early in the match) comes to mind. > >--Peter I was so impressed with that move that I tried the idea in a similar position in a tournament game. Sadly, my opponent knew Fisher's game too and didn't take the knight :( José C.
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