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Subject: Re: Bringer in Fritz 6 Gui

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 00:59:58 08/17/00

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On August 15, 2000 at 20:23:23, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On August 15, 2000 at 05:14:26, Jason Williamson wrote:
>
>>Is there a way to help bringer not lose on time all the time in the Fritz 6
>>Interface?  It appears the bringer loses track of time after a few moves as it
>>has to replay the position.
>
>My serious suggestion is - complain with Chessbase. I had and I have much
>problems understanding their implementation of the winboard protocol. I am
>almost certain, that ChessBase implements commands, that are defined with Tim
>Mann's description of the Winboard protocol, in a totally different way. Also,
>I have read the technical documention of their Winbaord adapter many times. I
>am almost certain, that their implementation contradicts their documentatation.
>I give one small example. Tim Mann says, that after the command "new", the chess
>engine should feel as black. He also says, that "time" sets the clock of the
>chess engine. If Yace plays as white under the Fritz GUI, it alway gets new
>first. Then it gets the time command. This now should set the time on the clock
>of black. Then it gets all the moves of the current game. Then it gets "go",
>which just means: search. Perhaps, you will see, that this doesn't work at all,
>when the engine is white. There will be no time synchronization at all.
>
>I can see, that the ChessBase method (giving the whole move list before
>each move) is more robust. But the way they implement it, just makes it almost
>impossible for any Winboard engine to work, without any very strange
>"fitz_mode"-hacks. Many statements of their documentation are just not true.
>
>If you don't believe, I can show specific samples of my logs. ChessBase
>seems to ignore my comments ...
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

I suspect they are just waiting for you to get fed up and offer them your engine
as a native engine sometime soon.  :)  Its annoying really that none of the
major commercial engines use the winboard setup properly.

JW



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