Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:52:26 08/17/00
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On August 17, 2000 at 04:02:42, Jason Williamson wrote: >On August 17, 2000 at 01:38:32, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 16, 2000 at 18:55:43, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >> >>>>>be sure that the improvement of the chessbase engines lay far behind rebel or >>>>>shredder for example. >>>> >>>>Did you test all the chessbase engines to be sure about it? >>>>Did chessbase send you their latest versions? >>>> >>> >>>the answer is very easy: >>>if they want to have a realistic chance, fritz has to gain a minimum improvement >>>of 50 elo, junior has to gain a minimum of 100 elo. >>> >>>i know for sure that this is not the case. >> >>How do you know? >>Did the programmers tell you that it is not the case? >>> >>>so chessbase will hardly be able to win the title. >>> >>>marcus >> >>Based on previous post of Amir Ban Frans Morsch is the most unrespected >>programmer and amir also claimed that he is most likely going to release an >>atomic bomb in his next version. >> >>Based on this information I will not be surprised if Fritz's version is 100 elo >>better than Fritz6. >> >>I will be surprised if fritz's version is less than 50 elo better than Fritz6 >>because of Amir's post. >> >>My guess for the first 3 places in order to win chessbase8 was: >>1)Fritz >>2)Shredder >>3)Crafty >> >>I guess that all these programs are more than 50 elo better than fritz6 when in >>the case of crafty the main reason is better hardware. >> >>I guess that Rebel,Tiger and Nimzo8 and maybe Junior are also better than >>fritz6. >> >>Uri > > >Don't just attribute Crafty's strength on hardware, Bob has done lots of work on >improving Crafty's play at slower time controls. I would say Crafty is at least >100 points stronger today at slower stuff then 3 years ago, maybe closer to 200 >points. I am sure Crafty today is clearly better than 3 years ago but the question was to compare Crafty with other programs and not with old versions of crafty. Guessing that Crafty is better than fritz6 mainly because of hardware is not the same as attributing Crafty's strength on hardware. Uri
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