Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 02:42:26 08/17/00
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On August 17, 2000 at 04:52:26, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 17, 2000 at 04:02:42, Jason Williamson wrote: > >>On August 17, 2000 at 01:38:32, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 16, 2000 at 18:55:43, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >>> >>>>>>be sure that the improvement of the chessbase engines lay far behind rebel or >>>>>>shredder for example. >>>>> >>>>>Did you test all the chessbase engines to be sure about it? >>>>>Did chessbase send you their latest versions? >>>>> >>>> >>>>the answer is very easy: >>>>if they want to have a realistic chance, fritz has to gain a minimum improvement >>>>of 50 elo, junior has to gain a minimum of 100 elo. >>>> >>>>i know for sure that this is not the case. >>> >>>How do you know? >>>Did the programmers tell you that it is not the case? >>>> >>>>so chessbase will hardly be able to win the title. >>>> >>>>marcus >>> >>>Based on previous post of Amir Ban Frans Morsch is the most unrespected >>>programmer and amir also claimed that he is most likely going to release an >>>atomic bomb in his next version. >>> >>>Based on this information I will not be surprised if Fritz's version is 100 elo >>>better than Fritz6. >>> >>>I will be surprised if fritz's version is less than 50 elo better than Fritz6 >>>because of Amir's post. >>> >>>My guess for the first 3 places in order to win chessbase8 was: >>>1)Fritz >>>2)Shredder >>>3)Crafty >>> >>>I guess that all these programs are more than 50 elo better than fritz6 when in >>>the case of crafty the main reason is better hardware. >>> >>>I guess that Rebel,Tiger and Nimzo8 and maybe Junior are also better than >>>fritz6. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Don't just attribute Crafty's strength on hardware, Bob has done lots of work on >>improving Crafty's play at slower time controls. I would say Crafty is at least >>100 points stronger today at slower stuff then 3 years ago, maybe closer to 200 >>points. > >I am sure Crafty today is clearly better than 3 years ago but the question was >to compare Crafty with other programs and not with old versions of crafty. > >Guessing that Crafty is better than fritz6 mainly because of hardware is not the >same as attributing Crafty's strength on hardware. > >Uri True enough, in any event, despite the poor turnout of engines in total, it should be an interesting event none the less. JW
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