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Subject: Re: human or computer??

Author: Alvaro Rodriguez

Date: 13:42:19 08/18/00

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On August 18, 2000 at 15:53:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 18, 2000 at 14:10:42, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote:
>
>>On August 18, 2000 at 07:22:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 18, 2000 at 02:57:48, hashimoto wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Is it possible to tell whether players are using computer instead of
>>>>their brain when playing chess on the net?
>>>
>>>Sure, just post the moves and the time a person needed a move,
>>>and it's a piece of cake usually to see whether it's a computer.
>>
>>What`s the difference in your opinion between humans and programs in this
>>matter? Are the programs slower in the opening? Does the human instantly answer
>>to an exchange?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Alvaro
>
>Oh well, let's quote Bruce Moreland on this.
>
>If i give away a queen at move 4 in a real silly way, then Kasparov
>will directly chop off the queen. A program will think for 3 minutes.
>
>Basically time division is an important issue if they 100% use
>the ocmputer.
>
>usually computercheaters KICK that much on egorating heigth, or their
>dick's height, whatever, they kick on it. They will learn that always
>doing the computermove getsthem a higher rating, so they will do
>all moves with computer, so they are forced to use the computer division
>of time, or their rating goes down.
>
>So a lineair division of time, like the first 20 moves nearly all moves
>at exactly 8 seconds a move, that's a clear case.
>
>That's usually a DOS program. Usually Rebel10.

It´s much difficult to catch the "smart" cheaters, those who use a program 50 %
of the time... If he/she uses the program after the opening, it`s hard to even
think he/she uses a program.. The first moves very fast, and after 10-15 moves,
start using a program..I think it´s dificult here..

What if the cheater use an automatic program ?

Regards,
Alvaro



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