Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:08:17 08/18/00
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On August 18, 2000 at 15:46:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On August 18, 2000 at 15:27:57, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On August 18, 2000 at 13:59:03, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On August 18, 2000 at 07:17:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 18, 2000 at 04:32:38, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am wondering what result's Diep get's on the Positional section of the LCT II
>>>>>test?
>>>>
>>>>I have not tried that test lately. Diep sure is a slow searcher.
>>>>So even if it solves them all, then it has to be said: other programs
>>>>are real quick in solving them, matter of tuning to known testsets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You really have nothing better to do than throwing mud to your fellows chess
>>>programmers?
>>>
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll have a look for you this evening.
>>
>>
>>Christophe,
>>
>>I have a feeling that Vincent meant merely that programmers often use test
>>suites to fine-tune their programs. Nothing over and above that. That's how I
>>understood him...
>> Have a nice weekend, both of you :)
>
>The result is the same of course.
>
>Like that LCT position where Bb5 gets played.
>Some programs that don't know a thing about strong versus bad bishop
>solve it... :)
>
>Even worse is some aggressive tuned programs solve Nb1 in the bs2830
>test set completely, despite that they don't have evaluation in their
>program to measure the trapnessed of the queen, as that's what is needed
>to solve this.
>
>Usually side effects in tuning have the same result as sovling it for
>the right reason.
>
>Diep has a function that measures whether a piece is trapped.
>
>How many programs have this also?
Chess Tiger and several other top programs have this knowledge since a long
time.
Christophe
>How many programs solve Nb1 in the bs2830 test set quick?
>
>Note that by giving a bit extra points for attacking certain pawns also
>solves this position, that's how new versions of programs solve it
>nowadays.
>
>>
>>*** Djordje
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