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Subject: Re: Why is Crafty so fast?

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 03:41:25 11/30/97

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On November 29, 1997 at 14:41:50, Jay Scott wrote:

>On November 28, 1997 at 07:45:32, Chris Whittington wrote:
>>But I still make the point; the design compromise made to be bitmapped
>>ot offseted is going to have major consequences for the knowledge/speed
>>decision.
>
>The two choices of data structure, offset or bitmap, are
>mathematically isomorphic but have radically different
>efficiency characteristics on the scale of machine instructions
>and inner loops. Everyone agrees so far, right?
>
>Here you're trying to draw a conclusion about knowledge
>versus search, a broad-brush overall-architecture kind of
>thing, based on what machine instructions and inner loops
>you think each kind of program will end up with.
>
>Yow, that's too big a jump for me! Sure, the micro-
>architecture must affect the macro-architecture, but
>there are way too many cross-connections to understand
>them all ahead of time. You'd have to be superhuman to
>draw a conclusion like that without deep expertise in
>both data structures.
>
>  Jay


I believe it is very possible that one approach is better than another
in
absolute terms.  I don't guarantee that this is the case here but I'm
definitely leaning toward
bit boards.

Computer science is filled with examples of certain approaches or data
representations being better for certain problems.   I would be very
surpised if it were not so for the subject we are talking about.

My position is that bit boards are "probably" better in the long run but
I will be willing to change my mind if it turns out I am wrong.   I also
argue that dynamic knowledge is more easily and more efficiently
implemented
with bit boards.   I don't mind taking a commital position here because
I
can always change my mind later!   I would like to see this discussion
continue because there may be much to be learned.



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