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Subject: Re: Crafty v17

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:52:48 08/21/00

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On August 21, 2000 at 08:28:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 21, 2000 at 08:20:01, Jason Williamson wrote:
>
>>On August 21, 2000 at 06:47:02, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On August 21, 2000 at 05:55:03, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:27:23, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:12:14, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am determined to be heard. Crafty for tournament play by SSDF should be called
>>>>>>Crafty V17 as suggest earlier.
>>>>>>Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>>maybe you should put   "as suggested by the author himself earlier"
>>>>>
>>>>>atleast the guys in SSDF will take it seriously (??).
>>>>>
>>>>>or they would say "oh these are a bunch of kids who likes crafty" (joke)
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>>
>>>>>pavel
>>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>I think we should restart with a later version 17.11 and higher, there is many
>>>>signs that these versions are clearly better, compare for instance the list for
>>>>Chessbase engines, where 17.11 is placed much higher than 17.07.
>>>>
>>>>Bertil SSDF
>>>
>>>IMO there is no need of restarting, since so many games has been played.
>>>all these games would be a waste then.
>>>'I suggest' that when you play with crafty next time pls use the latest version
>>>available and name all the version V17, in this way it will be easier.
>>>and you dont have to play with every version. just uptodate version 17 with the
>>>versions that are available......
>>>'even better suggestion' use the auto232 to connect chessbase interface with
>>>winboard, AFAIK there is no hassle at all. and in ICS (internet chess servers)
>>>there are MANY computer accounts who are playing chessbase engines like that.
>>>'I am sure' that there is no problem with the autoplayer at all .........
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>pavel
>>>
>>>ps, I am sure people probably has better ideas ;)
>>
>>This is the idea that makes the most sense to me with engines like Crafty that
>>will be updated more then once a year.  Bascily, SDDF has to just see the fact
>>there isn't all that much that differnt from 17.7 and 17.11 just some big bug
>>fixes, while from 16.x and 17.x has a lot of big changes.  Basicly, if it was my
>>rating list I would just measure the main version.
>
>I do not understand about what bugs you are talking
>
>I read that 17.8 is the version that won the ICC tournament.
>and I read also that 17.7 is identical to 17.8 about chess moves.
>
>Uri


That is part of the point.  Why test both 17.7 _and_ 17.8?  And who should look
at the source to see whether a new version has enough changes to justify testing
it against the older versions?

_every_ version has had bugs fixed that were in previous versions.  Where a bug
could be something that might make it crash (rare), or either incorrect
knowledge, or incorrectly implemented knowledge.  Or even missing special-case
knowledge...



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