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Subject: Re: Crafty v17

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:24:33 08/21/00

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On August 21, 2000 at 08:49:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 21, 2000 at 05:55:03, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:27:23, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:12:14, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am determined to be heard. Crafty for tournament play by SSDF should be called
>>>>Crafty V17 as suggest earlier.
>>>>Wayne
>>>
>>>maybe you should put   "as suggested by the author himself earlier"
>>>
>>>atleast the guys in SSDF will take it seriously (??).
>>>
>>>or they would say "oh these are a bunch of kids who likes crafty" (joke)
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>pavel
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I think we should restart with a later version 17.11 and higher, there is many
>>signs that these versions are clearly better, compare for instance the list for
>>Chessbase engines, where 17.11 is placed much higher than 17.07.
>>
>>Bertil SSDF
>
>
>It is your list to do with as you want, of course.  But I don't particularly
>like the idea of testing each 17.x version separately...  for several reasons.
>
>1.  Once 17.13 is released, why would you ever want to play more games with
>(say) 17.7 (or any older version)?  This would likely mean that 17.13 would be
>tested exclusively, until 17.14 comes out.  Then you would move on to that
>version, and ignore the earlier versions.

I think that the ssdf want to test a new version only when they think that there
is a clear improvement(at least 40-50 elo).

I saw some results not by the ssdf(based on hundreds of fast time control games
of both versions) that suggest that 17.11 is a clear improvement relative to
crafty17.07 and I guess that this is the reason they want to test Crafty17.11.

If they will not see again results that suggest that 17.13 is a clear
improvement relative to 17.11 then I guess that they are not going to test
17.13.

>
>2.  I don't particularly call _any_ version "stable" unless there is a target
>event like the WMCCC.  In this year's case, there is no stable version at all,
>as we only entered the WMCCC at the last minute with no real planning.

There was an ICC tournament that crafty won.
Do you say that it was not a target event?

Uri



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