Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:09:46 08/21/00
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On August 21, 2000 at 15:24:33, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 21, 2000 at 08:49:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 21, 2000 at 05:55:03, Bertil Eklund wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:27:23, pavel wrote: >>> >>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:12:14, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >>>> >>>>>I am determined to be heard. Crafty for tournament play by SSDF should be called >>>>>Crafty V17 as suggest earlier. >>>>>Wayne >>>> >>>>maybe you should put "as suggested by the author himself earlier" >>>> >>>>atleast the guys in SSDF will take it seriously (??). >>>> >>>>or they would say "oh these are a bunch of kids who likes crafty" (joke) >>>> >>>>:) >>>> >>>>pavel >>> >>>Hi! >>> >>>I think we should restart with a later version 17.11 and higher, there is many >>>signs that these versions are clearly better, compare for instance the list for >>>Chessbase engines, where 17.11 is placed much higher than 17.07. >>> >>>Bertil SSDF >> >> >>It is your list to do with as you want, of course. But I don't particularly >>like the idea of testing each 17.x version separately... for several reasons. >> >>1. Once 17.13 is released, why would you ever want to play more games with >>(say) 17.7 (or any older version)? This would likely mean that 17.13 would be >>tested exclusively, until 17.14 comes out. Then you would move on to that >>version, and ignore the earlier versions. > >I think that the ssdf want to test a new version only when they think that there >is a clear improvement(at least 40-50 elo). > >I saw some results not by the ssdf(based on hundreds of fast time control games >of both versions) that suggest that 17.11 is a clear improvement relative to >crafty17.07 and I guess that this is the reason they want to test Crafty17.11. > >If they will not see again results that suggest that 17.13 is a clear >improvement relative to 17.11 then I guess that they are not going to test >17.13. > >> >>2. I don't particularly call _any_ version "stable" unless there is a target >>event like the WMCCC. In this year's case, there is no stable version at all, >>as we only entered the WMCCC at the last minute with no real planning. > >There was an ICC tournament that crafty won. >Do you say that it was not a target event? > >Uri Nope. All I did to prepare for that event was to stop making new changes, and only fixed problems as they showed up. That is not the way I normally prepare for a computer chess event, but I felt there would be enough of the ICC events that going into my normal preparation mode would not be a reasonable way to proceed.
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