Author: pavel
Date: 07:58:40 08/22/00
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On August 22, 2000 at 10:35:14, Uri Blass wrote: >On August 22, 2000 at 10:04:18, pavel wrote: > >>On August 22, 2000 at 04:14:21, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 22, 2000 at 04:01:09, pavel wrote: >>> >>>>On August 21, 2000 at 11:17:21, Aaron Tay wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 10:33:08, pavel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>whats wrong? >>>>>>the whole idea is wrong. >>>>>>as I have said before the 'only fair way' is to run crafty under winboard. >>>>>>and that is 'the bottom line' >>>>>>or unless bob compiles one for CB interface ...... >>>>> >>>>>>or these games are just a matter of wasting time ;) >>>>> >>>>>>pavel >>>>> >>>>>Hmm I suppose the SOS used is the one in the Young Talents Cd? Correct me if I'm >>>>>wrong but those programmers don't compile the CB versions themselves either >>>>>right? Just like the free native CB versions of Crafty,Comet,Faile etc.. >>>> >>>>all CB compatible versions those source code are not available publicly (comet, >>>>bringer, sos) are compiled by the author themselves. >>>>there is no other way out. >>>> >>>>CB guys cannot compile their own version for comet or sos, unless the author >>>>gives them the source code........'of course' they will not give them their >>>>source code :))......that goes for comet,sos bringer and others...... >>> >>>I disagree with this of course. >>>The programmers will give chessbase the source code because they want to have a >>>chessbase engine. >>> >>>SOS is commercial in the young talent and people buy it. >>>The programmer probably knows that if he is not going to give chessbase the >>>source code it is not going to be an engine for chessbase. >>> >>>Bob Hyatt explained that it is impossible for him to compile crafty as an engine >>>for chessbase without having the chessbase source code and I do not think that >>>chessbase will give their source code for the programmers of SOS or other >>>chessbase engines. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >> as far as I know you dont need the source code of fritz to compile a version >>for fritz interface. >>the only differance between fritz and winboard is the output command. >>in fritz's case it is probably 'more complicated'. >>In winboard forum there was this post about how to make chess programs that run >>on winboard, CB compatible. >>I have to look for it though...... >> >>No one will give away their source code "just like that" to make it compatible >>for CB.......it is absurd !! > >It is not absurd. "people thinks differant" thats the whole idea ;) whats absurd to me is probably ok to you ........and its normal ;) > > >>would you give away your source code to someone just to make it compatible for >>CB??.........i dont think so. > >I think that it is a question of money and the pogrammers of SOS and other >programs probably earn money from their programs if chessbase sell their >programs in the young talent CD. just to convince you that you dont need to "give up" your source code to the chessbase guys to make it compatible for chessbase.. eg, Bringer, it is a program with "no open source code", the programer 'himself' wrote a CB compatible version of bringer. as you know it is "not in the CB webpage" because "they didnt compile it themself". you can download it from franks webpage or the authors webpage and just read the "readme" file. and you will know what I am talking about. eg, little goliath (freeware), the author himself said in its "readme" file "something like this" , 'the CB interface seems to have problem with time alocation with the programs, my programs cant get the time of the opponent while playing under CB, I hopefully fixed it in this version' pls note that the little goliath freeware version for CB "is not in the CB webpage", because they did not "compile it themself". > > >>like it or not. winboard is more popular and people can live without making >>their program CB compatible. > >How much money do the programmer of SOS earn from his winboard version? > >Uri >>CB winboard adapter wouldnt be so famous ( as it is now) if you needed to give >>your source code to the CB guys "just to make it CB compatible" > >I read that the programmer of faile gave his source code to the chessbase guys. >Most of the winboard engines for fritz are free programs(including free source) >code so the programmers have no problem to give their source code to chessbase. > >I believe that most of the programmers have no problem with giving their source >code to chessbase. they spend many yrs to write a chess program, so that they can give it to CB who will "bless them" by making a CB compatible version for it? funny isnt it? > >Some programmers stopped doing their programs free only because of the fact that >they did not like to see clones of their programs when the people behind the >clone do not give respect for them and hide the fact that the program is almost >identical to their program but they can trust chessbase not to do it. > >Uri I need some time to prove it.......and I will :) pavel
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