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Subject: Re: about CB compatible engines.

Author: pavel

Date: 08:28:18 08/23/00

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On August 23, 2000 at 06:41:33, Aaron Tay wrote:

>On August 23, 2000 at 03:31:58, pavel wrote:
>
>>maybe I dont understand the concept right (coz i was not aware of winboard
>>adapter before).
>
>>if you can play with winboard adapter rightfully then why the need of winboard
>>native engine?
>
>AActually this was answered before by Pete..in one of the threads you started
>
>>I dont have the downloadable version of winboard adapter (or whatever it is ).
>
>Go get it at Chess base or at Frank's site.Test it out..learn more about
>it..yourself, that's the best way.
>
>
>>i was wondering if crafty (the winboard version) can play with the winboard
>>adapter? ......if so, is there any differance?
>
>It seems to me you are still  confused..If you want crafty to play in CB gui,
>you need to either use the native versions by CB go use the winboard adaptor..
>
>
>
>>I mailed the author of lil goliath.....
>
>Sigh..


sorry Aaron for boring you. but it really wasnt intentional ;)

using the native version of Cb or using the winboard adapter doesnt seems to be
the only option......

to my "other" thread that "I started" Kai skibbi as a YT programmer said what is
the 'other way'......go check it out.

another YT programer, Michael of little goliath (one of my fav prog), said
something similiar.
let me copy and paste it ..

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Hello!



> Hi michael ,
>                      i was wondering about the chessbase native engines.
> my questions are :-
>
> do you need to give the CB guys your source code to make it compatible for
> chessbase GUIs?

> or you can compile it your self (without using the winboard adapter) to run
> it under CB GUIs

Compiled myself, but there are many changes in the engine because the interface
is total different (compared with the winboard adapter). I don't own the
interface sources (.ENG file) of CB, but they give me some sources (headers) so
that I could adapt the interface of the engine.

>
> also if used winboard adapter , is it just as good? ( as the native Cb
> engines)?
>

The native version is MUCH better (than using winboard adapter together with
Fritz). It is more reliable and offers more options:
- engine get information about BOTH clocks
- displaying more details of the thinking process
- hashtable size and other settings can be set without editing files
(goliath.ini)


>
> waiting for informed and prompt answer

hope the info was useful

best regards

Michael

>
>
> thanks alot for your time
>
> pavel

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yes i am probably wrong (to the fact that everyone can compile 'easily' an .eng
version of their program) , but again no one in this world is perfect.
I have the guts to accept my 'mistakes'.

on the other hand, I am 'rightfully' right that it is not necessary to give out
your source code to the 'CB guys' to make it compatible.

the information that is needed to from the CB guys to make it compatible for
CB??
where to get it??

i am know 100% positive that I read it on winboard forum posted by someone.
but i cannot find the 'particular' post from the archieve :(

I dont think the CB guys will say 'no' if you ask for it (the necessary info).


'but again' that wasnt the main issue ( we have gone far from that).

the main issue was that 'what other options do we have, other than making the
native version of crafty(CB) play in the SSDF'

I said 'either BOB compiles one for CB or the SSDF guys use the auto232, which
works as a pipe for CB interface and winboard'

Bob said ' he doesnt know (or have any information) about how to compile one for
CB GUI'

Uri said ' there is no other way to compile one for CB unless the the Cb guys
compiles themselves'

ok lets say we have 'dicussed' the part that it is 'probably' possible to make a
compiled version for CB without the native version.

so that leaves "why not use the (winboard-CB) autoplayer?" (auto232??).

another boring one......

sorry :)

pavel







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