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Subject: Re: 1998 World Computer Chess Championship.

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 11:56:30 12/03/97

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On December 03, 1997 at 14:23:49, Chris Carson wrote:

>On December 03, 1997 at 14:01:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 1997 at 08:52:13, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 1997 at 08:40:20, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well I thought I would see if anyone is interested in
>>>>discussing this topic.
>>>>
>>>>1.  When is this?
>>>>2.  Opinions on who will show
>>>>    Deep Blue?  Deep Blue JR ?
>>>
>>>Anyone who is planning to show up with a Jr or Junior suffix, prefix, or
>>>whatever, can expect to draw a lot of heat from certain parties. IBM
>>>have been duly informed of this.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>I'm not sure what this means, but "junior" is non-trademarkable and
>>non-copyrightable.  It has already been used far too many times on
>>different
>>products.  We even participated in a human tournament years ago with a
>>program
>>known as Cray Blitz junior, because the machine we used was far slower
>>than
>>the usual big crays we used, and USCF didn't want a wildly incorrect
>>rating
>>used for initial seeding.
>>
>>You ought to get over the "junior" issue, or else pick a more unusual
>>name.  But Junior, baby, thought, etc are simply too generic to expect
>>them to be protected by any legal means.  Crafty falls under the same
>>basic umbrella.  I chose it because I liked it, but I see the word
>>"crafty"
>>used all the time, even with respect to chess (this was a crafty move by
>>black to attempt to trap the bishop...).
>>
>>To become enlightened on just how tenuous your claim on "junior" is, do
>>a netsearch.  You'll be amazed.  It's not worth arguing over, nor worth
>>making waves over.  Before you can make waves, you have to pick a unique
>>name and trademark it.  That is *very* difficult since most words have
>>already been used somewhere, and once they are in common use they can't
>>ever be protected.
>>
>>Junior means "smaller version".  We even had a machine known as junior
>>here, it being a smaller version of another machine we had.  That's
>>common.
>>As is the word "blitz" in Cray Blitz.  Notice "Dark Thought" which
>>sounds
>>like a much more famous program?  Genius can't be claimed either.  too
>>many
>>of 'em...
>
>I would tend to agree with Bob (just an opinion).  Also, IBM
>has used Jr (IBM PC Jr) before.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

I personally would prefer my own orignial name (or as orignial as you
can
reasonably be) and not try to jump in on some fad thing.  I remember
when
everyone was tacking the designation "pro" or "professional" after their
product and I thought it really sounded unimaginative.  Stuff like this
seems to fire peoples imagination though I do not know why.

Maybe I should market a serial version of cilkchess and call it
"Cilkchess
Jr. professional edition.",  for the discriminating chess player!

Don



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