Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:29:22 08/24/00
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On August 25, 2000 at 01:17:06, Alvaro Polo wrote: >On August 24, 2000 at 23:17:53, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On August 24, 2000 at 22:48:47, Michael Fuhrmann wrote: >> >>>On August 24, 2000 at 22:01:39, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On August 24, 2000 at 18:53:53, Eran wrote: >>>> >>>>>Different chess programs use different processor speed, and the results may not >>>>>be fair. If Junior uses Pentium III 1000 Mhz instead of 700 Mhz, Junior might be >>>>>a bit stronger and belong to the group of top chess programs, Shredder, Fritz, >>>>>and Nimzo. I assume that if all chess programs use the same processor speed >>>>>exactly, for instance Pentium III 1000 Mhz, the wmcc results will be enough >>>>>reliable and fair. Do you agree with it? >>>>> >>>>>Eran >>>> >>>>As for "fair", this is not a uniform platform tournament. If you do a uniform >>>>platform tournament, you get "fair". If you go to one that isn't, and you >>>>expect "fair", it's better to stay home, because it won't be. It's not uniform >>>>platform. >>>> >>>>If you expect "reliable", even in a uniform platform tournament, you aren't >>>>going to get that, either. If you deduce a perfectly accurate rating for each >>>>participant, and simulate the tournament a few dozen times, you'll get wildly >>>>different results. The "best" program won't win every time. The "best" program >>>>might not even finish in the top half. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>> >>>Sounds like there's no good reason for holding the event at all, since the >>>result doesn't tell us anything meaningful. >> >>Right. There isn't a reason to hold the World Series, the Olympics, the World >>Cup, or any other sporting event, either. >> > >It is curious what you say. In plain chess (not computer chess), if there is a >tournement where Kasparov participates in, you can expect him to win. Sometimes >he wont, of course, but I don't think it is probable that he won't finish on the >top half. It looks like chess is much more reliable than computer chess. I >wonder why. If the difference in the rating between the first program and the other programs is big enough then you can be practically sure that the top program is going to finish in the top half and the same is for humans. Uri
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