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Subject: Re: MCP7 and DOS obstinacy

Author: Chris Whittington

Date: 15:42:04 12/03/97

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On December 03, 1997 at 16:10:33, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>On December 03, 1997 at 15:14:00, Chris Whittington wrote:
>
>>
>>On December 03, 1997 at 15:02:48, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 1997 at 14:35:33, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 1997 at 14:12:13, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have lost many hours with
>>>>>MCP7 and although I have some experience in config.sys and autoexec.
>>>>>stuff and all that hoopla, I did not get anything, except chrashes and
>>>>>hours lost for nothing. Dear Marty, if you ever read this, please forget
>>>>>the pedantic views of that guys that insist in DOS because they get 0,3%
>>>>>more Elo points and think a little more in the simple fact that almost
>>>>>all PC users are windows users and think in the also simple fact that to
>>>>>play chess is not the reason we have a PC. I think is hard to imagine
>>>>>nobody willing to risk his serious, working programs just trying to use
>>>>>a DIOS program in Windows platform. Enough is enough. From now on, I
>>>>>will concentrate in genius, Schedder or Fritz family or in any
>>>>>reasonable winfowed program. I got tired of all this.
>>>>>Fernando
>>>>
>>>>I don't know what your problem is, but I like DOS and I think it is
>>>>still a better OS than WIN whatever.
>>>>I also don't understand your anger.
>>>>I don't have to change my config.sys or autoexec.bat when I want to run
>>>>shredder, rebel9 or Wchess in x-mode or normal.
>>>>I have a menue and I can choose between different
>>>>startup-configurations.
>>>>
>>>>What is your problem with Mchess7?
>>>
>>>Come on, Thorsten. You must be kidding. For a few days we interchanged
>>>emails about how to make CSTal work on my computers and we didn't
>>>succeed yet. Fernando has the same problem with Mchess 7.
>>>
>>>I agree with Fernando wholeheartedly. The only reason I see to stay in
>>>DOS is this miserable 5% difference in speed. We all use Windows, that's
>>>after all how 99% of us work and contact through the Internet. DOS
>>>programs are too often a source of problems.
>>
>>No, DOS programs are rarely the source of the problems. These are
>>usually to be found in some combination of hardware and end-user.
>>
>>Chris Whittington
>>
>>>
>>>Enrique
>
>
>I don't understand Chris logic. He say DOS is not the problem, but a
>relationship between the hardware and the user. Well, that is in
>operational terms what a DOS problem is. The point is that althought
>Windows is not precisely a 100% safe OS, at least the installing and
>tunning steps are not so so hard to implement. In Chris words, Windows
>does not put problem between "the hardware and the final user". I
>suppose Chris is going to Windows in his next CSTAL version because that
>is the future or at least the present because finally, there is a last
>argument that cannot be refuted: we, customers, want windows. And when I
>say customers I refer not only to a bunch of computerized wizards that
>loves to expend half a day looking for the best config for getting an
>extra kilobyte of hash tables. Maybe I am getting old, but, I repeat, I
>got tired of that ceremony and his many problems. Please Chris, give us
>wiondows.people wants windows. God ask for windows. Let DOS for Mr Spock
>and the captain of the Enterprise.

CSTal DOS is the last DOS program Oxford Softworks will ever do.
Everything (Bridge, Go, Shogi, etc. etc.) is already Windows 95 and far
less troublesome.

But, even Windows 95 and hardware has problems. For example, as Thorsten
reveals, I've been playing Close Combat II, a Microsoft released game.
On two of my childerns PC's, which are P90's with Trident cards, about
15 months old now, this program won;t run. The Trident old drivers
didn't support 16 bit colour (CC2 needs 16 bit colour), so I upgraded
the softwrae drivers form the Microsoft Win95 release CD, did the
DirectX5 install (also needed for CC2) and also written by MIcrosoft.
Result - total crash of system with CC2 running. Solution - pay some
money to change the video cards to something more recent. Same problem
arises with Curse of Monkey Island 3.

Too many hardware combinations, too many software combinations.
Something fails somewhere, somehow, always.

For sure, however, Win 95 plug and play gives fewer problems than DOS.
But stand by for the DOS users complaints when all chess software
becomes Win95 only.





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