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Subject: Re: WMCCC Results Tables, several different views + 1 more

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 23:11:13 08/25/00

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On August 25, 2000 at 23:54:08, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On August 25, 2000 at 22:05:19, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>   PROGRAM     CPU    MHZ   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
>>-------------------------------------------------------------
>> 1 Shredder    K7    1000  *1  *2  *2½ *3  *3½ *4  *5  *6  *7
>> 2 Fritz       PIII  1000  *1  *2  *2½ *3  *3½ *4  *5   5½  6½
>> 3 Chess Tiger PIII   800  *1   1   1½  2½  3   3½  4½  5½  6
>> 4 Rebel       PIII   800  *1  *2   2   2½  3   3   4   5   6
>> 5 Junior      PIII   700   ½   1½ *2½ *3  *3½ *4   4   5   5½
>> 6 SOS         PIII   667   ½   1   1   2   3  *4   4   4½  5½
>> 7 Nimzo       PIII  1000  *1   1   2  *3  *3½ *4  *5   5   5
>> 8 Incomniac   PIII   933   0   ½   1½  1½  2   3   4   4   5
>> 9 Zchess      K7     800   0   1   1   2   3   3½  3½  4½  4½
>>10 Diep        PIII   800   0   0   1   1   1½  2½  2½  3½  4
>>11 Crafty      Alpha  500  *1   1   2   2   2½  2½  3½  3½  3½
>>12 Francesca   Cel    600   0   1   1½  1½  2   3   3   3   3½
>>13 XiniX       Cel    500   0   0   0   1   1   1   1   1   1
>>14 Pacque      Cel    333   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
>>
>>* 1st or tied for 1st
>>

I think all the computer programs can be accomodated. The problem I think is 9
rounds is overkill in a swiss when there are only 14 participants. If they had
played only 5 rounds, the top programs would probably have never been paired
with the bottom 2 finishers and the pairing problems you have alluded to would
never have occurred. If you look at the pairings actually made, none of the top
6 were paired with the bottom 2 until the 7th round.

If 5 rounds sounds too random, then just have them play 2 games with each other.
One as Black and one as White. This would also alleviate colour allocation
problems and now they would play a total of 10 games so the tournament result
would not be made more random.

I don't like the idea of cutting out the weaker programs. I prefer a policy that
is encouraging and not exclusionary.

>>
>>On August 25, 2000 at 20:33:58, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>On August 25, 2000 at 19:43:49, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Name          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4  Score   SOP
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>  1 Shredder      x = 1 = = 1 = 1 1 1            7.0  48.0
>>>>  2 Fritz         = x = = = = 1 1 1   1          6.5  48.0
>>>>  3 Chess Tiger   0 = x   =   = 1   1   = 1 1    6.0  37.5
>>>>  4 Rebel         = =   x 0 0 1       1 1 1 1    6.0  37.5
>>>>  5 Junior        = = = 1 x = 0   = 1       1    5.5  44.5
>>>>  6 SOS           0 =   1 = x 0 =       1 1 1    5.5  39.5
>>>>  7 Nimzo         = 0 = 0 1 1 x 0 1   1          5.0  49.5
>>>>  8 Insomniac     0 0 0     = 1 x   = 1 1 1      5.0  42.0
>>>>  9 ZChess        0 0     =   0   x 1 0 1 1 1    4.5  36.0
>>>> 10 Diep          0   0   0     = 0 x 1 = 1 1    4.0  36.0
>>>> 11 Crafty          0   0     0 0 1 0 x = 1 1    3.5  35.5
>>>> 12 Francesca         = 0   0   0 0 = = x 1 1    3.5  35.5
>>>> 13 XiniX             0 0   0   0 0 0 0 0 x 1    1.0  38.0
>>>> 14 Pacque Expert     0 0 0 0     0 0 0 0 0 x    0.0  39.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Name          1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9     Score   SOP
>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>  1 Shredder      W10+ B3+  W2=  B4=  W5=  B7=  W6+  B8+  W9+     7.0  48.0
>>>>  2 Fritz         B8+  W7+  B1=  W5=  B4=  W3=  B9+  W6=  B11+    6.5  48.0
>>>>  3 Chess Tiger   B14+ W1-  B12= W8+  B7=  B2=  W10+ B13+ W5=     6.0  37.5
>>>>  4 Rebel         B12+ W11+ B5-  W1=  W2=  B6-  B13+ W7+  W14+    6.0  37.5
>>>>  5 Junior        W6=  B10+ W4+  B2=  B1=  W9=  W7-  B14+ B3=     5.5  44.5
>>>>  6 SOS           B5=  W8=  B7-  W12+ B14+ W4+  B1-  B2=  W13+    5.5  39.5
>>>>  7 Nimzo         W9+  B2-  W6+  B11+ W3=  W1=  B5+  B4-  W8-     5.0  49.5
>>>>  8 Insomniac     W2-  B6=  W13+ B3-  W10= B11+ W12+ W1-  B7+     5.0  42.0
>>>>  9 ZChess        B7-  W14+ B11- B10+ W13+ B5=  W2-  W12+ B1-     4.5  36.0
>>>> 10 Diep          B1-  W5-  B14+ W9-  B8=  W13+ B3-  W11+ B12=    4.0  36.0
>>>> 11 Crafty        W13+ B4-  W9+  W7-  B12= W8-  B14+ B10- W2-     3.5  35.5
>>>> 12 Francesca     W4-  B13+ W3=  B6-  W11= W14+ B8-  B9-  W10=    3.5  35.5
>>>> 13 XiniX         B11- W12- B8-  W14+ B9-  B10- W4-  W3-  B6-     1.0  38.0
>>>> 14 Pacque Expert W3-  B9-  W10- B13- W6-  B12- W11- W5-  B4-     0.0  39.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Name           Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %   SOP
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>  1 Shredder        +5   =4   -0   *0    7.0     9   77.8%  48.0 SUPER RESULT
>>>>  2 Fritz           +4   =5   -0   *0    6.5     9   72.2%  48.0 SUPER RESULT
>>>>  3 Chess Tiger     +4   =4   -1   *0    6.0     9   66.7%  37.5 SUPER RESULT
>>>>  4 Rebel           +5   =2   -2   *0    6.0     9   66.7%  37.5 AVERAGE
>>>>  5 Junior          +3   =5   -1   *0    5.5     9   61.1%  44.5 AVERAGE
>>>>  6 SOS             +4   =3   -2   *0    5.5     9   61.1%  39.5 SUPER RESULT
>>>>  7 Nimzo           +4   =2   -3   *0    5.0     9   55.6%  49.5 BAD RESULT
>>>>  8 Insomniac       +4   =2   -3   *0    5.0     9   55.6%  42.0 UNUSUAL
>>>>  9 ZChess          +4   =1   -4   *0    4.5     9   50.0%  36.0 GREAT RESULT
>>>> 10 Diep            +3   =2   -4   *0    4.0     9   44.4%  36.0 MASTER
>>>> 11 Crafty          +3   =1   -5   *0    3.5     9   38.9%  35.5 MASTER
>>>> 12 Francesca       +2   =3   -4   *0    3.5     9   38.9%  35.5 MASTER
>>>> 13 XiniX           +1   =0   -8   *0    1.0     9   11.1%  38.0 EXPERT LEVEL
>>>> 14 Pacque Expert   +0   =0   -9   *0    0.0     9    0.0%  39.5 EXPERT LEVEL
>>>>
>>>>Total Games:      63
>>>>White Wins:       26 (41.3%)
>>>>Black Wins:       20 (31.7%)
>>>>Draws:            17 (27.0%)
>>>>Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)
>
>I believe that programs that are not rated above 2500 should not be allowed
>toparticipate in the next WMCCC they just created havoc to the pairing of the
>top super programs.
>
>Pichard.



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